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pH calculation, why is calculated different?
« on: October 13, 2019, 01:09:42 PM »
Hi,

In one of the tasks to practice, I can see that the author, calculated a task in two different way, somebody can explain to me why, I would calculate the same example A and B, exactly like in A (using [H+]= Ka x c weak acid), so why B equation  (which is [H+]^2= - Ka ± sq K2+a + 4 x (Ka x c weak acid) / 2 ) is different?

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Re: pH calculation, why is calculated different?
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2019, 02:08:37 PM »
One approach uses approximations which makes calculations easier (but they are not always justified), see explanation here: http://www.chembuddy.com/?left=pH-calculation&right=pH-weak-acid-base
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Re: pH calculation, why is calculated different?
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2019, 02:11:54 PM »
Chemists like to count in a simplified way, but so that the calculation error does not exceed, e.g., 5%.
Insert c = 380K into both formulas. You will get [H +] = 19.5K or 19K, respectively - 1/20 just gives a 5% error. So for all concentrations for which c exceeds 380 K using the first simpler formula, we do not exceed 5% error in calculations, of course with correct rounding and without some other stupid error. Usually, we use the number 500 which is easy to divide c/K in memory (c divide by 1000, multiply the result by 2 and compare with K). In your case, 2x(0.1/1000) = 2x10-4>K, so you can safely calculate with a simplified formula.
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Re: pH calculation, why is calculated different?
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2019, 04:18:55 PM »
Thank you for both explanations!

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