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Gases : numberical problem
« on: August 26, 2006, 04:23:42 AM »
Hi,
A straight glass tube of 200cm length has two inlets X and Y at the ends. HCL gas through inlet X and NH3 gas through inlet Y are allowed to enter in the tube at the same time and same pressure. White fumes appear at a point P inside the tube. Calculate the distance of P from X.

r1 = rate of disassociation of HCL
r2 = rate of disassociation of NH3
x = distance moved by HCL gas
M1 = Molecular weight of HCL
M2 = Molecular weight of NH3

r1/r2 = (M2)1/2/(M1)1/2

x/(200-x) = (17/36.5)1/2
x = 119.12

Distance of 'P' from 'X' = 119.12cm
Is this correct?



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Re: Gases : numberical problem
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2006, 05:57:28 AM »
r1 = rate of disassociation of HCL
r2 = rate of disassociation of NH3

Dissociation? Isn't that supposed to be effusion? Your equation reflects Graham's law, so you are on the right track. It is just that you use the wrong wording.

Point P is where ammonia meets hydrogen chloride gas. The position of Point P would thus be a function of the speed of molecular effusion, which is indirectly proportional to the square root of the molecular mass of each gas.

r1/r2 = (M2)1/2/(M1)1/2

x/(200-x) = (17/36.5)1/2

You use the correct equation with the correct values. You are correct.
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Re: Gases : numberical problem
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2006, 09:03:31 PM »
ok thanks :)! but my book says the answer is 81cm and the more I think of it, that answer seems to be more logical as NH3 gas would have moved a greater distance. Is it wrong?

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Re: Gases : numberical problem
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2006, 06:21:42 PM »
x/(200-x) = (17/36.5)1/2

Actually solving the above equation yields x = 81cm

Heh.. I only check your equation - I didn't evaluate it numerically :D

How did you get 119cm?
« Last Edit: August 27, 2006, 06:29:28 PM by geodome »
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Re: Gases : numberical problem
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2006, 06:40:29 PM »
Some simple/stupid math error :)

81 + 119 = 200
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Re: Gases : numberical problem
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2006, 09:11:29 AM »
gee.. stupid of me :-\. anyway thanks to all

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Re: Gases : numberical problem
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2006, 11:50:39 AM »
yep. it is correct

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