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Offline dnnysn

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Electrolysed water?
« on: April 01, 2020, 11:44:53 AM »
Hello everyoneI hope you are all safe

I have a quick question that I hope you can help with.

I want to purchase a electrolyzed water generator

https://www.latimes.com/la-fi-magicwater23-2009feb23-story.html

It's been used for a while in a few countries mainly in the medical, agricultural and hotel industry (amongst others)

" It turns out that zapping salt water with low-voltage electricity creates a couple of powerful yet nontoxic cleaning agents. Sodium ions are converted into sodium hydroxide, an alkaline liquid that cleans and degreases like detergent, but without the scrubbing bubbles. Chloride ions become hypochlorous acid, a potent disinfectant known as acid water "

A Korean company sells a version of this for a very expensive price:

https://m.kmall24.com/vauzen-vauzen-electrolyzed-water-generator-non-toxic-natural-all-purpose-cleaner-deodorizer.html

There are cheaper versions but they use the term Hypochlorous Acid and Sodium hypochlorite almost interchangably

http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=293527676189&category=19258&pm=1&ds=0&t=1585401794000&ver=0

They both have the same instructions (add salt and water), and unless I'm wrong (I could be) electricity is electricity... Is it bad english? Is it different technology (hence the mark up)? Are they essentially the same thing (I saw that they're quite different)

Thank you!

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Re: Electrolysed water?
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2020, 12:07:45 PM »
I think more and more people jump on the train corona and sell machines, masks, and others for huge money . They play with the anxiety of the people and get rich by this.

At least if you do an electrolysis with a 9V battery and carbon electrodes and stir the salt solution continuously you will get the same result.  This cost only 5 bucks maybe.

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Re: Electrolysed water?
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2020, 10:23:54 PM »
so electrolyzed water is electrolyzed water, both machines or salt water with a battery do the same? I heard it makes bleach but vinegar reduces the pH changing the outcome

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Re: Electrolysed water?
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2020, 02:16:10 AM »
You might want to get some underlying knowledge from a less bias sorce.
Have you searched WIKI and understand the information there
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis
Note there are more than one page associated with the topic there.

As suggested before there are a lot of scams involving electrolysis.



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Re: Electrolysed water?
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2020, 09:38:43 AM »
"zapping salt water with low-voltage electricity creates a couple of powerful yet nontoxic cleaning agents."
It makes bleach. The same that you get instantly at the supermarket for ridiculously cheap, instead of waiting for weeks if making at home.

And bleach is the one chemical that kills most users at home. "Nontoxic" is a dangerous lie. So:
  • Don't make bleach. Worst possible choice.
  • Buy it.
  • Or better: buy percarbonate. It disinfects too and is far less dangerous.

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