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Offline AussieKenDoll

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Why some intensity ratios doesn't follow pascal triangle?
« on: August 21, 2020, 01:59:28 PM »
I am studying F-19 NMR (I=1/2), of BF3 , All 3 Fluorines couple to B-11 (I=3/2)  and gives a quartet of equal intensity of 1:1:1:1 rather than 1:2:2:1 according to pascal triangle. Why is that?

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Re: Why some intensity ratios doesn't follow pascal triangle?
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2020, 02:28:46 PM »
You asked this before.  It might help to think about the difference between B-11 and the more commonly encountered spin 1/2 nuclei like C-13.  Does that help?

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Re: Why some intensity ratios doesn't follow pascal triangle?
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2020, 04:28:50 PM »
Not really helpful! do you mean that B-11 has I=3/2 and C,H,F has I=1/2 , so what it has to do with not following the pascal triangle?

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Re: Why some intensity ratios doesn't follow pascal triangle?
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2020, 06:06:36 PM »
You are on the right track.  Consider CDCl3.  As you can tell from any C-13 spectrum taken in deuterated chloroform, the chloroform signal is a 1:1:1 triplet.  Now think about the properties of the deuterium nucleus.

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Re: Why some intensity ratios doesn't follow pascal triangle?
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2020, 10:26:32 AM »
You could next try constructing a coupling tree for deuterated DMSO.  The H-1 spectrum shows a 1:2:3:2:1 pentet from a small amount of DMSO with the structure D2HCS(O)CD3.
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