December 11, 2024, 11:01:28 PM
Forum Rules: Read This Before Posting


Topic: question about measuring conductivity of liquids  (Read 2980 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline djrf12

  • New Member
  • **
  • Posts: 3
  • Mole Snacks: +0/-0
question about measuring conductivity of liquids
« on: November 26, 2020, 08:39:39 PM »
So for a metal, the flow of electricity is due to free electrons that can move through the metal. But for liquids, there can be cations and anions that facilitate the transfer of charge. As far as I know there can be free electrons in liquids too that can also contribute to the flow of electricity through a liquid in addition to the movement of cations and anions that contribute to the movement of charge due to the presence of an electric field.

My question is, Is there a way to measure the conductivity of a liquid such that you only measure the contribution due to the free electrons in a liquid, excluding any contribution from the cations and anions? I know there are pH meters that can measure how many H+ cations there are, but I was wondering if there is an instrument or technique that can measure the contribution to the conductivity due to free electrons alone.

The only thing I can think of so far would be to freeze the liquid to stop the movement of any ions and to then measure its conductivity with a standard conductivity meter. But then I read somewhere that cations and anions could quantum tunnel and if this is the case they might still show up on any reading.

Offline chenbeier

  • Sr. Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1337
  • Mole Snacks: +102/-22
  • Gender: Male
Re: question about measuring conductivity of liquids
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2020, 04:46:13 PM »
There are no free electrons swimming in the solution. Die conductivity is given by the ions. By the way conductivity is measures by using AC current with high frequency to overcome reactions at the electrodes.

Offline Enthalpy

  • Chemist
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4036
  • Mole Snacks: +304/-59
Re: question about measuring conductivity of liquids
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2021, 07:42:55 AM »
Liquid metals, for instance mercury, have mobile electrons to carry electricity.

I just don't see why deciding that needs an instrument. If you know the liquid's composition, you can tell. However, the reaction time of the conduction to an external field might tell if conduction results from light electrons or from heavy ions.

Offline chenbeier

  • Sr. Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1337
  • Mole Snacks: +102/-22
  • Gender: Male
Re: question about measuring conductivity of liquids
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2021, 08:31:13 AM »
I dont think he was talking about liquid metals.There are anyway not so much. In liquids like acids, salt solutions etc. There will be no free electrons. Conductivity is carried out by ions.

Sponsored Links