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Topic: 2-chloro tiophene + buLi : ortho lithiation vs metal-halide exchange  (Read 866 times)

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Offline xshadow

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Hi

According to us which reaction will occour with  2-chloro tiophene + BuLi ??!!

A)  ortho -lithiation on the other free ortho position
B) metal halide echange  ???

I read that  metal echange reaction are very fast...but also with chloride? (have to break the C-Cl bond, stronger than the C-Br/C-I)

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I dont know, I guess you gett lithiation in the 5-position. Can you use Scifinder or Reaxys? If you want to be sure you can use LDA to get pure 5-metalation. If you want metalation in the 2-position you can use magnesium and make a Grignard. Its possible you need to use excess magnesium+1,2-dichloroethane to get good Grignard.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2021, 04:20:27 PM by rolnor »

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I dont know, I guess you gett lithiation in the 5-position. Can you use Scifinder or Reaxys? If you want to be sure you can use LDA to get pure 5-metalation. If you want metalation in the 2-position you can use magnesium and make a Grignard. Its possible you need to use excess magnesium+1,2-dichloroethane to get good Grignard.
Thanks.
No i can't :(

So is LDA  better than BuLi in tiophene orto lithiation?

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Re: 2-chloro tiophene + buLi : ortho lithiation vs metal-halide exchange
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2021, 03:04:08 AM »
You dont get halogen-metal exchange with LDA, you only pick the acidic 5-proton.

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Re: 2-chloro tiophene + buLi : ortho lithiation vs metal-halide exchange
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2021, 07:13:39 AM »
You dont get halogen-metal exchange with LDA, you only pick the acidic 5-proton.

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