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No Color Change During Manual Titration
« on: October 22, 2024, 06:13:19 AM »
Hello,
I am attempting to perform a titration to determine the concentration of sodium dichromate in a nitric acid bath. The titration is done in two steps. The first step is to titrate (with 0.1N sodium thiosulfate) to a straw yellow color. Once this change occurs, you are supposed to add starch indicator and continue titrating until a clear-green endpoint is reached. My problem is that I am not seeing any color change to straw yellow during the first step. Does this mean that there is little to no sodium dichromate in the solution? Before titration, the solution is prepared with 20% potassium iodide and a few mLs of concentrated HCl. The final result should only be a few mL, but I titrated ~25mL without seeing any changes. Any help or suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance

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Re: No Color Change During Manual Titration
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2024, 11:59:01 AM »
Something is off. Thiosulfate and starch are used to titrate iodine, not dichromate. Straw yellow color is diluted iodine in water (and yes, that's the moment to add starch in iodometry), but there is no way to see it in the presence of Cr compounds, be it chromate, dichromate or just Cr3+, their colors are way too strong.

Original solution doesn't contain iodine. Apparently from your description there is a step before titration that is intended to produce iodine - but I have no idea, if oxidation of iodine to iodide with dichromate (especially in the presence of nitric acid, another oxidizing agent) is stoichiometric (and fast enough). Could be, I just don't remember such a procedure being discussed/mentioned.

Does the color of the solution change after adding iodide and HCl? If so, you can try to titrate this solution with thiosulfate till it gets close to the original color (before adding iodide), and try to add starch then.

You can even add starch much earlier, just to see if it changes the solution color. Normally you would want to add it as late as possible as the reaction between starch and concentrated iodine is a bit too strong and can make detection of the end point difficult, but if you add it earlier you will at least know if everything works correctly (just don't treat result of this titration too seriously, more as an indication when you are getting close to the endpoint and it is time to add starch in a "real" titration).
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