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How do they make H2S sniffing sticks?
« on: April 26, 2025, 03:32:00 AM »
How do they make the sniffing sticks that smell of H2S for over a month or so?  Any ideas for what's inside the pens?

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Re: How do they make H2S sniffing sticks?
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2025, 11:42:39 AM »
You mean the ones used for smelling tests?
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Re: How do they make H2S sniffing sticks?
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2025, 06:42:02 PM »
Yeah, not sure the exact test being described.  The stick's  carried in the hospital used to revive someone generated Ammonia, not h2s ( they were most often used when showing a relative a body in the morgue, unfortunately). Are these the ones being asked about?

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Re: How do they make H2S sniffing sticks?
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2025, 11:14:16 AM »
No, not the ammonia test, but H2S smelling test sticks. They use smelling sticks for training so you know how different gases smell. Also for all kinds of aromas, but H2S is not easy to get into a stick. It is very special because usually the smell is quickly gone. So how can you make it last in small concentrations? How can you conserve this odor for some time is the question.

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Re: How do they make H2S sniffing sticks?
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2025, 11:51:29 AM »
Get ironsulfide FeS and add some acid (sulfuric, hydrochloric, acetic acid, etc.)
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Re: How do they make H2S sniffing sticks?
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2025, 12:10:01 PM »
But then the odor won't last too long which is exactly the problem. How would you make it last longer over time so that you could use it for a smelling sample impression again and again, at least for a week or so?

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Re: How do they make H2S sniffing sticks?
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2025, 12:31:25 PM »
Not that I have an exact proposition, but I would look for any sulfide mixed with some substance that slowly hydrolyzes producing an acid in the presence of water in air - such a mixture should produce H2S very slowly and for a long time (and you really need hydrogen sulfide in a very minute amounts, smell can detect some insanely low concentrations).

Or something similar to thioacetamide, which easily hydrolyzes in hot water, producing the gas. Just something that doesn't need elevated temperature. Or put it in a device similar to vapes, with a small battery run heater.
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Re: How do they make H2S sniffing sticks?
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2025, 02:15:29 PM »
Wow, 2 possibilities that are completely new to me!

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So are you saying that there are some substances that keep changing into acids as they only have contact with the (water in the) air? And the air should have a certain temperature then? What would be some examples for such substances and what temperature would be necessary?

2. Thioacetamide just in water would work? At room temperature? Or above 20°C?


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Re: How do they make H2S sniffing sticks?
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2025, 02:32:57 PM »
So are you saying that there are some substances that keep changing into acids as they only have contact with the (water in the) air? And the air should have a certain temperature then? What would be some examples for such substances and what temperature would be necessary?

For example most acid anhydrides work this way. Some are more sensitive to water and will react very fast, some will react slower, no simple answer tou your questions.

And acid anhydrides are definitely not the only substances that behave this way.

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Thioacetamide just in water would work? At room temperature? Or above 20°C?

In classical inorganic analysis thioacetamide is used in hot water bath to precipitate sulfides. It does react in low temperatures as well, but much slower (basic kinetics). It is highly possible other thioamides will decompose much easier at room temperature (but no, I can't give examples, this is just prediction based on how the chemistry works in general).
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Re: How do they make H2S sniffing sticks?
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2025, 02:07:33 AM »
This is really informative to me. Please more input like this - also if anyone else would like to join in go ahead.

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Re: How do they make H2S sniffing sticks?
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2025, 08:02:53 AM »
Wikipedia has information about olfactory fatigue which may be of interest to you.

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Re: How do they make H2S sniffing sticks?
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2025, 10:44:54 AM »
Definite issue of concern with H2S.  We used H2S for heavy metals testing per the USP.  Always did it under a hood. But still...The issue of not being able to smell it if it got to strong always bothered me (and hopefully others)..

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Re: How do they make H2S sniffing sticks?
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2025, 11:51:58 AM »
H2S is like HCN in power of poisson.
Danger is in high concentration  you cannot smell it anymore cause deadly accidents.

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Re: How do they make H2S sniffing sticks?
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2025, 02:09:15 PM »
Yes, H2S is highly toxic and dangerous. My bet is these test sticks are made in such a way they don't contain enough sulfur to be dangerous (which is actually another reason why they can be difficult to replicate).
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