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Deprotonation yielding a stable dianion?
« on: October 28, 2006, 08:13:14 PM »
I just got a new organic chem assignment, and there is one question that defies my logic, and what we've learned. We are given two cyclic 5 carbon rings, one has two double bonds, the other has one. We are supposed to remove 2 protons (forming a dianion), and account for its stability. However, since it is such a small compound, wouldn't this compound not exist? I suppose that if it were a trans configuration it would be more likely, or if one proton is lost from either side. I am not asking for the solution, just some help on my path.

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Re: Deprotonation yielding a stable dianion?
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2006, 11:26:44 PM »
Think about what deprotonation might do to a cyclic, conjugated molecule, especially if deprotonation allows the molecule to change from sp3 hybridization to sp2 hybridization.

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Re: Deprotonation yielding a stable dianion?
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2006, 08:40:47 PM »
After looking at the molecule, it made sense where the two protons would likely come from. Also, I found that using Hückel's rules, that it becomes aromatic. I thought that both positive charges would be on the 5-carbon ring with one double bond.
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