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Spectator ions (URGENT)
« on: November 23, 2006, 05:05:31 PM »
Hi i have an equation

 CaCO3 + 2HCl -> CaCl2 + CO2 + H2O

how would this look ionically???? I dont know which ones are the spectator ions. I looked in textbox and on internet but i cant quite get it. I came up with

Ca(2+)CO3(2-) -> Ca (2+)Cl2 (-) + H2O

i think that is wrong

thanks for help

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Re: Spectator ions (URGENT)
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2006, 05:18:27 PM »
How soluble is calcium chloride?  ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectator_ion

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Re: Spectator ions (URGENT)
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2006, 05:31:54 PM »
im still not sure. ive got my equation to

O3(2-) + 2H(+)Cl(-) -> Cl2 + O2 + H2O

but this cant be right

Can you give me the equation and tell me how you did it

thanks

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Re: Spectator ions (URGENT)
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2006, 05:38:54 PM »
First of all, have you understood which are the spectator ions?

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Ca(2+)CO3(2-) -> Ca (2+)Cl2 (-)

This is correct. For what concerns the rest, remeber that H2CO3-> H2O + CO2.

I can't give you the answer because of the rules of the website: we help people this way here.

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Re: Spectator ions (URGENT)
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2006, 05:45:02 PM »
i know what a spectator ion is and i understand http://www.wpbschoolhouse.btinternet.co.uk/page01/ElCpdMix/EleCmdMix.htm#higher

EDIT: but can somebody please take me through this equation. I cant work it out

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Re: Spectator ions (URGENT)
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2006, 05:51:22 PM »
H2CO3-> H2O + CO2.

hmm

i can understand the 3 oxygens are split and the 1 combines with 2 hydrogens to make water, but how would the equation look

thanks

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Re: Spectator ions (URGENT)
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2006, 05:53:55 PM »
is this the ionic equation:

O3(2-) + 2H(+) -> CO2 + H2O

???

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Re: Spectator ions (URGENT)
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2006, 06:12:52 PM »
nope wait...

i think its

C(4+)O3(2-) + 2H(+) -> CO2 + H2O

both have a charge of 0

can someone confirm that my ionic equation is right

Thankyou
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EDIT: or is it
2H(+) - > H2O

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Re: Spectator ions (URGENT)
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2006, 06:15:12 PM »
1. CaCO3 is insoluble (well, it is weakly soluble, but you may assume it is insoluble) - thus it goes as CaCO3 into the equation.

2. Your original equation contains only two substances that will be completely dissociated and should be written as ions - which two?
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Re: Spectator ions (URGENT)
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2006, 06:21:10 PM »
calcuim and chlorine? Am i right? So my equation: C(4+)O3(2-) + 2H(+) -> CO2 + H2O is right or wrong?

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Re: Spectator ions (URGENT)
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2006, 06:34:21 PM »
calcuim and chlorine? Am i right? So my equation: C(4+)O3(2-) + 2H(+) -> CO2 + H2O is right or wrong?

Equation is wrong.

Calcium and chlorine are elements, I have asked about substances (compounds) that dissociate.
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Re: Spectator ions (URGENT)
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2006, 06:35:22 PM »
im lost. Can't you just give me the equation and take me through how you got it?

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Re: Spectator ions (URGENT)
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2006, 06:40:33 PM »
CaCO3 goes into the equation as solid.

HCl is strong acid, dissociated 100% - what ions are created?

CaCl2 is a soluble salt - dissociated as well - what ions are created?
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Re: Spectator ions (URGENT)
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2006, 06:44:29 PM »
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Your original equation contains only two substances that will be completely dissociated and should be written as ions - which two?

The only substance i can find that is disacciated is CalcuimChloride. Is CarboneDioxide the other one?? Meaning my final equation is

2H(+) - > H2O

what am i doing wrong?

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Re: Spectator ions (URGENT)
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2006, 06:49:02 PM »
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CaCO3 goes into the equation as solid.

HCl is strong acid, dissociated 100% % - what ions are created
CaCl2 is a soluble salt - dissociated as well - what ions are created?
 


Hydrogen Ions react  with the O(-) ions. Hydrogen ions make somthing acidic and O(-) ions make somthing a base. Are the ions created H(+) Cl(-) and Ca(2+) Cl(-)???


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