[mehdi71000]

hi guys
is there any way to remove the hydrogens in the mulucule below? if yes what would happen to the structurein a hydrogen free inviroment?

[alphahydroxy]

Maybe  I'm being stupid, but I don't quite follow you...

You want to remove the hydrogens? Do you mean deprotonate the alcohols, or oxidise them? Do you want to remove them from the carbons?

What's a "hydrogen free enviroment"? you mean an aprotic solvent or something?

[mehdi71000]

i want to remove all the hydrogens  bonding with the carbons or oxigens. i asume this molucule in its state has hydrogens bonding with its carbons. forget the hydogen free environment becouse i thought if  removing the hydrogens they will bond with more hydrogens. perhaps im wrong

[alphahydroxy]

I still don't quite get what you're wanting to do. I guess you could deprotonate the hydroxyl groups, or oxidise them up to the carbonyls, but removing the protons from the carbons would necessarily result in an impossibly strained cyclic system - i.e. not going to happen...

what exactly are you trying to make?


oh yeah, and please use chemdraw or something if you want to show structures - photo's of models really aren't very helpful!

[AWK]

Removing hydrogen from organic molecule is equivalent to its oxidation, ie water is formed from hydrohen atoms.
Molecules contain (3 or more) carbonyl groups close togeder are rather unstable.

[mehdi71000]

thanks guys
i want to remove the hydrogens so there is no hydrogen in the structure. by doing this i assume the oxygens of the molecule will bond with other oxygens . and the carbon with a free bond will bond with other carbons so the molecules will become attached like a huge structure. is this true?
i had this question from my teacher. he wants me to remove the hydrogens first then on a separate proses remove the oxygens. Ive been at this for 3 months now but no result. thanks guys for the help.

you mentioned deprotonate the hydroxyl groups how is this done?

[AWK]

This is a very odd problem

[mehdi71000]

any ideas awk?
is there a chemical that can bond in this molucule with the hydrogen and remove it from bonding with the carbons and oxigens?