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Offline Kelth

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why don't the charges become neutral?
« on: March 08, 2007, 05:20:49 AM »
     Hey all, first post! ^.-.^ pleasure to be aboard. Unfortunatly my first post is one asking for clarification.
Ok First off, here is the chemically equation, Unbalenced mind you (please excuse poor MSpaint representation):                                                                                                                                                                             






Now, what i can not figure out is that....shouldn't the charges equal out? I mean shouldn't it neutral? no charge? or...what am I forgetting?
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Re: why don't the charges become neutral?
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2007, 06:02:10 AM »
what am I forgetting?

To balance the equation.
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Re: why don't the charges become neutral?
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2007, 06:29:22 AM »
eeh that only makes the charges worse:

2K3PO4 + 3Sr(NO3)2 --produces--> 6KNO3 + Sr3(PO4)2


still the charges are not neutral.

6KNO3 now has
K: 6(+1) = +6     N: 6(-3) = -18   O: (6*3)(-2) = -36

 +6 != -56
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Re: why don't the charges become neutral?
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2007, 07:18:06 AM »
KN03 is a neutral species. 

Look up the structure of nitrates, try here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrate


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Re: why don't the charges become neutral?
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2007, 07:50:53 AM »
eeh that only makes the charges worse:

6KNO3 now has
K: 6(+1) = +6     N: 6(-3) = -18   O: (6*3)(-2) = -36

 +6 != -56
here is a mistake:
N: 6(+5)=+30  not "-3" and "-18"
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Re: why don't the charges become neutral?
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2007, 08:39:11 AM »
try not to figure out the oxidation numbers of individual atoms, but that of the ions instead.

that is to say, you know PO4 has a valency of -3, dont try to find out the valency of P and O separately, its too much trouble and proves nothing (you got the valency of P wrong btw, its +5), since the overall ion will remain the same.
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Re: why don't the charges become neutral?
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2007, 10:24:46 AM »
For double exchange reaction use charges for anions and cations, not for individual atoms
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