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benzene-reaction
« on: May 05, 2007, 01:29:55 PM »
Hi,
can someone help with the reaction from a benzene to a 1-metyl-4-chlorcyclohexane.
I need the intermediate steps and the reagents at each step.

thanks,
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Re: cyclobenzene-reaction
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2007, 02:52:53 PM »
Please read the Forum Rules[/url].  We require that you post your attempts to solve the problem before we will help you.  Also, for clarification, is your starting material benzene or cyclohexene?

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Re: cyclobenzene-reaction
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2007, 04:21:08 PM »
benzene, sorry bout that..

I cant see how we get rid of the double bound. Maybe addition of H2 in one step, then addition of Cl, but i cant see hoe to add a methyl group.

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Re: benzene-reaction
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2007, 04:37:11 PM »
You would probably need to add the methyl group prior to reducing the aromatic ring.  For reduction, you might want to try looking at a Birch reduction.   However, I'm not completely sure I know how to solve this problem, so these are just suggestions and I'm not sure that they are on the right track.

Good luck.

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Re: benzene-reaction
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2007, 01:32:55 PM »
anyone?

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Re: benzene-reaction
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2007, 03:20:12 PM »


dont know how to post image..but i can email it?

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Re: benzene-reaction
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2007, 05:12:25 PM »
If you click on "additional options", below, you will see a box to upload an image...

If you're certain it's 1-methyl-4-chlorocyclohexane you want, does it matter if it's cis or trans?

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Re: benzene-reaction
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2007, 05:20:51 PM »
image:
as you see, its a  three step reaction

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Re: benzene-reaction
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2007, 10:03:06 PM »
is it possible to do EAS (methylate & chlorinate) then catalytic hydrogen to reduce the benzene to cyclohexane?

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Re: benzene-reaction
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2007, 11:21:59 PM »
those would be my thoughts, benzene -> toluene -> p-chlorotoluene -> product. you should be able to think of reactants for those steps (at least the first two, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogenation will help for the last)

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Re: benzene-reaction
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2007, 06:33:24 AM »
those would be my thoughts, benzene -> toluene -> p-chlorotoluene -> product. you should be able to think of reactants for those steps (at least the first two, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogenation will help for the last)

Yeah, thought about that, my only concern was that most reagents I know about for the hydrogenation are fairly harsh and would probably reduce the C-Cl bond back to a C-H; unless things have moved on since last time I rambled through the lit.

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Re: benzene-reaction
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2007, 06:36:08 AM »
yeah i have my concerns too, and would worry about this route in practice. but this will work on paper

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