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homolytic/heterolytic fission
« on: June 04, 2007, 04:43:38 PM »
Hi, can anyone help me with this question? Not sure how to answer it. I know in homolytic (thermal) cracking an alkene is produced as below, doubt that's all you need to know in order to answer it. Any help is appreciated.  :D

Cracking of hydrocarbons involves breaking c-c bonds. This involves either homolytic fission (free radicals) or heterolytic fission (carbocation ans carboanion).

Industrial cracking of decane produces a branched chain alkane as one of its products e.g.

C10H22 ---> CH3CH2CH=CH2 + CH3CH(CH3)CH2CH2CH3
decane ---> butene + 2-methylpentane

Use this observation to assess which of the two mechanisms is involved in this reaction. (Draw out structural formula of intermediates to illustrate your answer).

(Clue - relative stability of intermediate).

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Re: homolytic/heterolytic fission
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2007, 05:10:22 PM »
the clue pretty much gives it away. what factors stabilise a carbocation, and what factors stabilise a radical?

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Re: homolytic/heterolytic fission
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2007, 05:16:57 PM »
electrophiles stabilise carbocatios and nucleophiles stabilise free radicals..there's no lightbulb flashing in my head..or am i wrong  ???

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Re: homolytic/heterolytic fission
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2007, 05:21:58 PM »
carbocation stability: tertiary>secondary>primary. illuminated?

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Re: homolytic/heterolytic fission
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2007, 05:52:26 PM »
eh not really, what are the intermediates?

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Re: homolytic/heterolytic fission
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2007, 06:19:02 PM »
you're getting close. consider carbanion stability: primary>secondary>tertiary. if the fisson is homolytic, what types of products would you expect?

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Re: homolytic/heterolytic fission
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2007, 06:23:43 PM »
free radicals?

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Re: homolytic/heterolytic fission
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2007, 06:38:11 PM »
seriously this might sound stupid but what actually are the intermediates?

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Re: homolytic/heterolytic fission
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2007, 06:41:56 PM »
they're the intermediates you'd expect, not the final products. if you form a primary radical, it will very quickly (in the absence of any stabilising effects) rearrange to a more stable radical - in this case secondary. but both radicals will rearrange in the same way, leading to two similar products. if you form a primary carbanion and carbocation, one of them will rearrange to a more a stable form, the other will stay in its stable primary form, ultimately leading to two different types of products. see now?

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Re: homolytic/heterolytic fission
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2007, 06:49:15 PM »
nein, not at all. i'll see my teacher about it, thanks for the help  :P

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Re: homolytic/heterolytic fission
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2007, 07:18:38 PM »
no problem, beats doing another column  ;)

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