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molar volume of methane
« on: August 05, 2007, 02:44:58 PM »
Calculate the molar volume of methane at 0°C and 1x10^7Pa assuming that the gas behaves perfectly.

I know that at stp the molar volume of a gas is 22.413 L/mol

Methane is not a perfect gas. Given the second virial coefficient (B) of methane under these conditions is -0.2393, calculate the molar volume

Any help with the above would be much appreciated

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Re: molar volume of methane
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2007, 03:19:07 PM »
Molar volume is n/V.  The ideal gas equation of PV=nRT.  Solve for n/V.

For the second equation, look up the virial equation of state in your chem book, then solve for n/V.

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Re: molar volume of methane
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2007, 08:05:47 AM »
by using V/n = RT/p i got 22.710 L/mol is this right?

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Re: molar volume of methane
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2007, 03:42:13 PM »
At STP (0oC, 1.013x105 Pa), a gas has a molar volume of 22.413 L/mol.  When you increase the pressure to 1x107 Pa, do you expect one mole of gas to occupy a greater volume or a smaller volume?

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Re: molar volume of methane
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2007, 06:19:28 AM »
I would expect it to have a smaller volume 


by using V/n = RT/p i got 0.0002271 L/mol


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Re: molar volume of methane
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2007, 07:46:51 AM »
22.7 or 22.4 L/mol is a correct value depending on a standard pressure taken (105 Pa or 1.013x105 Pa)
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Re: molar volume of methane
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2007, 04:44:10 PM »
For the molar volume of an ideal gas at 273K and 107Pa, I get 0.227 L/mol.

V/n = RT/P
R = 8.314 L kPa mol-1 K-1
T = 273 K
P = 1x104 kPa

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Re: molar volume of methane
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2007, 05:48:11 PM »
Thanks for the help  ;D

Before you mentioned virial equation of state did you mean this

PV/nRT = z = 1 + B(T)n/V?

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Re: molar volume of methane
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2007, 09:22:27 PM »
Yes.

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Re: molar volume of methane
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2007, 04:08:49 AM »
I'm having problem rearranging the equation to make n/v the subject

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Re: molar volume of methane
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2007, 10:45:11 PM »
It ends up giving you a quadratic equation for n/V.

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Re: molar volume of methane
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2007, 04:06:29 PM »
would it be pVm =  RT (1 + B/Vm) ?

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Re: molar volume of methane
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2007, 04:49:28 PM »
If you multiply through by Vm, you can get a quadratic equation of the form:

aVm2 + bVm + c = 0

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