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Toluene to Bromobenzene (or other halobenzene)
« on: September 19, 2007, 06:47:44 PM »
Hi,
Ive got a question from uni that asked for a practice way of converting Toluene to Bromobenzene. I think it has to be a few steps.
Any ideas?

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Re: Toluene to Bromobenzene (or other halobenzene)
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2007, 08:18:46 PM »
It will be at least two steps. Bromination of the benzene ring is relatively straight forward but then you have to get rid of the methyl group. One way is oxidation to a benzoic acid and decarboxylation. However if you are going to oxidize toluene to benzoic acid anyway (using KMnO4 for example) you could get directly to bromobenzene conveniently through the silver salt (look up the Hunsdiecker reaction). Hope that helps.

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Re: Toluene to Bromobenzene (or other halobenzene)
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2007, 09:44:28 PM »
Thanks!
Im on the right track now

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Re: Toluene to Bromobenzene (or other halobenzene)
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2007, 07:01:24 AM »
ok, i miss read the question.

Its supposed to be, toluene > benzene.

I think bromobenzene was a hint?

Anyone know how to turn halobenzene back to benzene, H2 and catalyst?

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Re: Toluene to Bromobenzene (or other halobenzene)
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2007, 07:40:37 AM »
Use the same approach.

Oxidise up to benzoic acid make the silver salt and do a Hunsdiecker affording the halo benzene. This can be dehalogenated by a variety of ways e.g. SmI2, hydrogenation,diazotisation followed by phosphorous acid, metal insertion followed by acid workup....

Any other ideas in less steps?

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Re: Toluene to Bromobenzene (or other halobenzene)
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2007, 02:46:11 AM »
Direct decrboxylation of the benxoic acid to benzene is possible. Sodium hydroxide and heat should do it. One less step.

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Re: Toluene to Bromobenzene (or other halobenzene)
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2007, 03:56:34 AM »
Thats an interesting one, looking into it now.
might do a bit of a write up.

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Re: Toluene to Bromobenzene (or other halobenzene)
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2007, 04:17:55 AM »
According to my research, Benzoic Acid + NaOH solution > Sodium Benzoate

Is Benzene formed from that product?
All i can find is un-scientific reports of a reaction with "vitamin-c", is there a for scientific way of producing benzene in high yields?

Ive also found, Toluene + H2 > benzene + CH3
with a silicon dioxide and aluminium oxide catalyst
any one have experience?

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Re: Toluene to Bromobenzene (or other halobenzene)
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2007, 05:06:40 AM »
According to my research, Benzoic Acid + NaOH solution > Sodium Benzoate

Is Benzene formed from that product?

Depends on conditions. In 'normal' conditions you will get just a sodium benzoate, in high NaOH concentrations and high temperatures you may see benzene and CO2 between products.
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