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SN2
« on: December 15, 2007, 06:35:11 PM »
can anyone answer this question for me ?
Consider this prototypical nucleophilic substitution CH3Br + -OH --> CH3OH + -Br
the effect of doubling the vol. of solvent would be to multiplly the reaction by a factor of
A) 1/4  B) 1/2  C) 2  D) 4
the answer is 1/4 but why??

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Re: SN2
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2007, 06:55:04 PM »
What's the rate equation for an SN2 reaction?

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Re: SN2
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2007, 07:38:25 PM »
What's the rate equation for an SN2 reaction?

rate= K[substituent][nucleophile]

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Re: SN2
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2007, 07:43:36 PM »
How will the concentration terms change?

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Re: SN2
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2007, 09:59:39 PM »
How will the concentration terms change?

what do you mean by the conc. term ? the volume of the solvent is double, so of course the rate of reaction is going to change too. i just don;t know how and why by a 1/4 but not 2.....when you are doubling....

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Re: SN2
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2007, 10:06:31 PM »
Concentration is moles/volume.  If you double volume, you half the concentration.  Since the rate depends on two concentrations, and each concentration is halved, the rate is 1/4 the original rate:

[CH3Br]new = (1/2)[CH3Br]
[OH-]new = (1/2)[OH-]
Rate = k[CH3Br]new[OH-]new=k(1/2)[CH3Br](1/2)[OH-] = (1/4)k[CH3Br][OH-]

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Re: SN2
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2007, 11:42:00 PM »
Concentration is moles/volume.  If you double volume, you half the concentration.  Since the rate depends on two concentrations, and each concentration is halved, the rate is 1/4 the original rate:

[CH3Br]new = (1/2)[CH3Br]
[OH-]new = (1/2)[OH-]
Rate = k[CH3Br]new[OH-]new=k(1/2)[CH3Br](1/2)[OH-] = (1/4)k[CH3Br][OH-]

thank you so much Yggdrasil for answering, it really helped .  ;D

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