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Determination of Rxn with pKa
« on: January 21, 2008, 06:54:42 PM »
I am having a hard time determining if a reaction will take place or not based on the pKa. For example

Toluic Acid (pKa 3.91) + Sodium Bicarbonate (pKa 6.3) --> Carbonic Acid + Toluic acid Ion

I know that the Toluic acid will be deprotonated into the ion but I don't know why this happens? I'm also expected to know which phase ( Organic or Aqueous) the products will be in.

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Re: Determination of Rxn with pKa
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2008, 07:07:06 PM »
This is an equilibrium. With the pKa values (which ones?) you can determine the equilibrium constant of the reaction.

EDIT:
Assuming that CO2 will not be removed from the equilibrium.
« Last Edit: January 21, 2008, 07:22:00 PM by Kryolith »

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Re: Determination of Rxn with pKa
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2008, 08:03:44 PM »
I realize that you can convert equil. constants but is there a way to determine if the rxn will proceed with just the pKa?

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Re: Determination of Rxn with pKa
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2008, 08:12:00 PM »
Yes comparing pKas will tell you if the reaction will proceed but you need to calculate the extent or equilibrium as already stated.  Look up the pKa for phenol?  Will sodium bicarbonate deprotonate phenol? No. Why? Look at pKa and compare to benzoic or toluic acid pKa.
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Re: Determination of Rxn with pKa
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2008, 01:13:07 AM »
Simple rule: lower pKa - stronger acid
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stronger acid replace a weaker one
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