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inert atmospheres and iso-chambers
« on: January 29, 2008, 01:32:34 PM »
hello chem-forums, zxxyxzxzz here, its nice to find a site like this theres so much to learn here its retarded! I know very little of chemistry but Iv been studying it for a couple years now and Iv studied the eqiuptment it involves too, everything from alkaloid reduction, basing freebase into a salt form, gassing salt from non-polar, filteration, washing, recrystallizing, air and oxygen sensitive molecues, rotary evap, vacuum pumps ( still studying these things, got a good idea ), madnetic stirrers, ect ect ect. Iv studied very little of inert atmospheres and iso-chambers they are created in ( otherwise knowen as the glove box ) and was curious as they are conducted and created, I was wondering if an inert atmosphere was something injected into a glove box to isolate the box with oh lets say Argon gas?? would your lab setup be IN the glove box?? OR, can an inert atmosphere be conducted straight into the flask with the chemical reaction ( since Argon doesnt really react with anything )??

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Re: inert atmospheres and iso-chambers
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2008, 01:34:50 PM »
Yes
Hey, I'm not judging.  I just like to shoot straight.  I'm a man of science.

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Re: inert atmospheres and iso-chambers
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2008, 01:41:47 AM »
yes to all answers?? so I could create an atmosphere of Argon inside a glove box with my setup inside the box-and continue with a chemical reaction inside the box?


everything with an inert atmosphere is created around the lab?


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Re: inert atmospheres and iso-chambers
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2008, 12:30:28 PM »
hello chem-forums, zxxyxzxzz here, its nice to find a site like this

Greetings, and welcome.

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theres so much to learn here its retarded!

Presumably this statement is meant to be complimentary.  A parent of a mentally disabled child might disagree however.  Standing in front of a large anonymous group and shouting something like that seems poor netiquette to me. Strike 1.

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I know very little of chemistry

Really?  Astonishing.

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but Iv been studying it for a couple years now

Really?  Genuinely astonishing.

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and Iv studied the eqiuptment it involves too,

Interesting focus of study.

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everything from alkaloid reduction,

Interesting, most people start with grammar and spelling, then work their way up to Wolff-Kishner reactions.

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basing freebase into a salt form,

Uh.  You made this one up, right?  Strike 2.

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gassing salt from non-polar

Spectacular drivel. Strike 3

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filteration,

Magnificent.

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rotary evap, vacuum pumps ( still studying these things, got a good idea ), madnetic stirrers,

I've never met a specialist in stir plates.  You must be in singular demand.

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ect ect ect. 

You've left some topics out?  Don't keep us in suspense like this, we need more.

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Iv studied very little of inert atmospheres and iso-chambers they are created in ( otherwise knowen as the glove box ) and was curious as they are conducted and created, I was wondering if an inert atmosphere was something injected into a glove box to isolate the box with oh lets say Argon gas?? would your lab setup be IN the glove box?? OR, can an inert atmosphere be conducted straight into the flask with the chemical reaction ( since Argon doesnt really react with anything )??

Yes, there are argon chambers used for such manipulations.  And purging a flask with argon is commonly done if the reaction needs to exclude air.  You should be able to find such procedures diagrammed in a book on organic chemistry.

Read your original missal out loud to a sampling of ordinary individuals, and see what they say.  I expect you'll get a lot of nervous "Yes"es, and a lot of rapid views of peoples backs.
« Last Edit: January 30, 2008, 12:51:19 PM by Arkcon »
Hey, I'm not judging.  I just like to shoot straight.  I'm a man of science.

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Re: inert atmospheres and iso-chambers
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2008, 02:50:18 PM »
lol, what i meant by ''retarded'' was "this is awesome"-c'mon live alittle, i didnt mean to offend anybody here, im here to learn about chemistry, though i was confused with the strikes i was reading under your quotes,

strike 1 for the use of the word retarded??-uh..sorry?

strike 2 basing freebase to salt form??-yeah yeah yeah, i didnt catch that one till you pointed it out, what i should have said was when a strong base is added then the amine is turned into a freebase non-polar soluble compound AND THEN it can be acidified to a SALT form.-if im still wrong then correct me.

strike 3 gassing to salt from a non-polar ( like ether ) to make an insoluble salt from a soluble freebase....

wow. who cares though, i got my anwser to my question.

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