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Question about pH of an aqueous solution
« on: April 19, 2008, 06:43:25 PM »
How would I calculate the pH of a 0.50 M solution of NH3.  The Kb of NH3 is 1.8x10^-5

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Re: Question about pH of an aqueous solution
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2008, 07:01:43 PM »
Please read forum rules.

Ammonia is a weak base. Start with the reaction equation, set up ICE table, calculate pOH, convert to pH.
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Re: Question about pH of an aqueous solution
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2008, 07:15:33 PM »
Please read forum rules.

Ammonia is a weak base. Start with the reaction equation, set up ICE table, calculate pOH, convert to pH.

OK I read them sorry.

Here is what I did:

Kb = 1.8 x 10-5 = [NH4+][OH-]/[NH3] = x2/0.50

Then

(1.8 x 10-5)(0.50) = x2

So using quadratics I got 3.0 x 10^-3

pH = -log 3.0 x 10^-3

OR

pH = log x 1/3.0 x 10^-3

pH = 2.52

This is how I was taught how to do these problems...however someone else said that 2.52 = the pOH and that I need to find that first and then sub in the formula pOH + pH = 14

However my notes say that pH = -log (value)

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Re: Question about pH of an aqueous solution
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2008, 10:53:13 PM »
No!, the value u obtained is a actually the concentration of OH-, right?

so in this case, when u take -lg(value), you are actually calculating pOH. Yes then you can use pH + pOH = 14

your note is correct or probably unclear, pH = -log (value)

See the pH, the H tells you the value you use should be [H+] so if you use [OH-] it doesn't work.

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Re: Question about pH of an aqueous solution
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2008, 04:18:14 AM »
Kb = 1.8 x 10-5 = [NH4+][OH-]/[NH3] = x2/0.50

That's not correct (although in this case error is luckilly small enough it can be neglected). You are forgetting [NH3] is consumed in the reaction, so its final concentration can be lower than 0.50.

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However my notes say that pH = -log (value)

pH = -log([H+])
pOH = -log([OH-])
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Re: Question about pH of an aqueous solution
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2008, 08:49:16 AM »
Kb = 1.8 x 10-5 = [NH4+][OH-]/[NH3] = x2/0.50


As Borek stated, it would be good if you state your assumptions before your calculations.
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