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Basic ideas oin how to balance thesae redox's??
« on: May 29, 2008, 05:14:19 PM »
MnO4- + Br- ---> MnO2 + BrO3-

I set MnO4- ---> MnO2
and Br- ---> BrO3-
and solved that way but i didnt get the right answer...


H20 + H3PO3 + I(iodine)2----> H3PO2 + IO3- +H+
How would you do it since there are 3 things?


Cu + HNO3 ---> Cu(NO3)2 + NO + H2O
I dont know what to set --> to what bc there are 3??

-- I dont know how to do it when theres three reactants/ products and i dont completely understand how to do them anyway, please *delete me*
also,

Fe + O2 + H2O---> Fe(OH)3

--is this one even possible?? its supposed to be the rusting of iron or something! ive worked so hard!

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Re: Basic ideas oin how to balance thesae redox's??
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2008, 05:58:52 PM »
MnO4- + Br- ---> MnO2 + BrO3-

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Your struggle starts here because you don't have a meaningful equation.

Where do you get your equation from? are you trying to make your own examples?

I would suggest thinking along these lines

MnO4-  --> Mn2+

2Br- --> Br2

Then add some H+ to the left hand side so it "soaks up" any liberated O into water on right hand side.

Try to balance those and see what happens - there's more to do after that point but that will come later.

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Re: Basic ideas oin how to balance thesae redox's??
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2008, 06:20:41 PM »
Your struggle starts here because you don't have a meaningful equation.

Where do you get your equation from? are you trying to make your own examples?

I would suggest thinking along these lines

MnO4-  --> Mn2+

MnO4- -> MnO2 is a valid half reaction that can be used to balance the equation.
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Re: Basic ideas oin how to balance thesae redox's??
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2008, 06:22:24 PM »
I got the answer to the first eqaution....

but is the answer to the second one
5H3PO3 + 2I2 +H2O ---> 5H3PO3 +2IO-3 +2H+

I worked hard but i dont have the answer to check it lol!

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Re: Basic ideas oin how to balance thesae redox's??
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2008, 06:25:39 PM »
5H3PO3 + 2I2 +H2O ---> 5H3PO3 +2IO-3 +2H+

Iodine is not balanced. Could be a typo, just like H3PO3 on the right side.
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Re: Basic ideas oin how to balance thesae redox's??
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2008, 06:38:06 PM »
uch I have no idea how to do it :(

and the one below it with copper IM COMPLETELY LOST ON.
I have no idea how to split it up at all. PLEASE HELp

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Re: Basic ideas oin how to balance thesae redox's??
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2008, 02:38:43 AM »
You were pretty close.

If you have no idea what is being oxidized and what is being reduced always start with sytematic assignement of oxidation numbers to all elemenets in all reagents. This is less work than you may think - most abundant elements usually don't change their oxidation states.
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Re: Basic ideas oin how to balance thesae redox's??
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2008, 03:49:06 AM »
Your struggle starts here because you don't have a meaningful equation.

Where do you get your equation from? are you trying to make your own examples?

I would suggest thinking along these lines

MnO4-  --> Mn2+

MnO4- -> MnO2 is a valid half reaction that can be used to balance the equation.
Aha !

I wasn't sure if it was - which is why I suggested the change to Mn2+

From my quick working MnO2 should lead to easier numbers.

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Re: Basic ideas oin how to balance thesae redox's??
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2008, 03:50:23 AM »
I got the answer to the first equation....

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Can you post what you think is the correct answer and explain the equation?

That will be the key to all such problems.

Clive

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Re: Basic ideas oin how to balance thesae redox's??
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2008, 05:24:30 PM »
MnO4- + Br- ---> MnO2 + BrO3-

I set MnO4- ---> MnO2
and Br- ---> BrO3-
and solved that way but i didnt get the right answer...


H20 + H3PO3 + I(iodine)2----> H3PO2 + IO3- +H+
How would you do it since there are 3 things?


Cu + HNO3 ---> Cu(NO3)2 + NO + H2O
I dont know what to set --> to what bc there are 3??

-- I dont know how to do it when theres three reactants/ products and i dont completely understand how to do them anyway, please *delete me*
also,

Fe + O2 + H2O---> Fe(OH)3

--is this one even possible?? its supposed to be the rusting of iron or something! ive worked so hard!

Does your teacher give you steps on how to do these equations? If not then i can give you the steps to solve REDOX reactions.

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