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Offline cliverlong

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Polar and non-polar solvents
« on: December 10, 2008, 04:21:10 AM »
Does anyone have a link that explains the basic difference in the mechanism for solution by polar solvents (such as water) versus solution by non-polar solvents such as benzene?

I have looked in wikipedia and the definition "a solvent is something that dissolves something else" is a bit circular for me.

I think if I have a simple model of the mechanism I will be able to justify why

  • ionic compounds, such as NaCl, tend to be soluble in polar solvents and not in non-polar solvents
  • and why covalently bonded molecules such as waxes or fats (*) dissolve in liquid hydrocarbons or tetrachloromethane but not in water

For me, the why not is as is important as the why.

Is there a description of the difference between non-polar dissolving, say waxes in benzene, versus non-polar mixing such as octane and decane?

Is tetrachloromethane a polar or non-polar solvent?

Thanks

Clive

(*) Fats/lipids may be a bit more complicated because of their hydrophilic/hydrophobic ends. So if they don't fit easily into the simple classification let's ignore them.

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Re: Polar and non-polar solvents
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2008, 01:46:23 PM »
Dear cliverlong;

You packed to much question into a single thread; - it’s enough for two ore three lessons!

So only a few links can be given to “solve” with each one or two partial problems/questions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solvent

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_polarity

http://www.chemguide.co.uk/basicorg/bonding/eneg.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant

In one of the sub-links from above also the question about CCl4 is answered.

I hope it will be of some help to you.
Good Luck!
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Re: Polar and non-polar solvents
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2008, 05:56:35 PM »
Start with this thread:
http://www.chemicalforums.com/index.php?topic=27861
It is of a really long post I made.

It touches on everything you mentioned in some manner, and it is at least an explanation. But it is really to much other stuff to expect a high school student to know; but then again you always seem to be a very smart and ambitious person always trying to go much deeper then the level you are ready for! Good luck!

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Re: Polar and non-polar solvents
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2008, 02:05:30 AM »
Start with this thread:
http://www.chemicalforums.com/index.php?topic=27861
It is of a really long post I made.
Yes. That's exactly the kind of explanation of the mechanism and its relation to energy/entropy I was looking for. It gives me a "spring-board" to read more on those topics.
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It touches on everything you mentioned in some manner, and it is at least an explanation. But it is really to much other stuff to expect a high school student to know; but then again you always seem to be a very smart and ambitious person always trying to go much deeper then the level you are ready for! Good luck!
I am flattered by your assessment.

Clive

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