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Offline lildarkangel13

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lewis dot structure for [PH2]+
« on: December 13, 2008, 04:23:23 PM »
how does the lewid dot strucutre look for it.... i think it has 2 lone pairs and 2 bonds, but im not sure... right? PLEASE HELP MEEE...im really confused about this problem..thank you

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Re: lewis dot structure for [PH2]+
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2008, 04:42:51 PM »
2 lone pairs + 2 bonds = 8 electrons.  Doesn't [PH2]+ only have 6 valence bonds available for bonding?

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Re: lewis dot structure for [PH2]+
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2008, 06:13:13 AM »
PH2 does not exist I think, but PH2+ means one electron is lost so there is 6 e-.  So we should have H-:P-H

Two bonds = 4 e- two lone pairs 2 e- = 6e-
Sounds like two bonds two lone pairs.

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Re: lewis dot structure for [PH2]+
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2008, 01:32:16 PM »
Bioionic, if there is only 6 electrons available for bonding and there are 2 bonds (2*2=4) wouldn't that mean that there's only 2 (6-4=2) electrons left over, or ONE lone pair?  Wouldn't 2 lone pairs require and EXTRA two electrons for a total of 8?

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Re: lewis dot structure for [PH2]+
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2008, 03:11:33 PM »
Your right, 1 pair. Thats what I meant... :-[

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Re: lewis dot structure for [PH2]+
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2008, 12:52:19 AM »
thanksss guyss..this question was in my chem test

i realized that if theres 2 bonds and 2 lone pairs in the P, then it would be [PH2]-

but if theres 2 bonds and 1 lone pair in the P, then it would be [PH2]+

I  was just confused because i wasnt sure whether  P  follows the octet rule in this case, since it only has 6 e- in [PH2]+


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