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Reaction mechanism
« on: December 24, 2008, 03:34:10 AM »
Plz anybody clear me the mechanism for the following reaction.
Its really hard for me, so need your help

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Re: Reaction mechanism
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2008, 04:26:53 AM »
Where reactions?
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Re: Reaction mechanism
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2008, 06:17:01 AM »
hi n4k
thanks for your concern, the reaction is attached as pdf version. you can see after logging. Plz find it and hoping for your help.

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Re: Reaction mechanism
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2008, 09:20:23 AM »
why reaction not perfect? There is nitrogenium not balance
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Re: Reaction mechanism
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2008, 09:35:10 AM »
Sorry, Nitrogen is in balance. main thing is how comes 6 membered ring changed to five membered ring, I couldnt find the solution for that.
Any idea?

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Re: Reaction mechanism
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2008, 01:50:14 AM »
No, nitrogen is not in balance.  You have 5 on the left, and 4 on the right.  Where did you get this mechanism?  Are you sure it's complete?  Simply aqueous acid is all that is needed?

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Re: Reaction mechanism
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2008, 02:00:51 PM »
this doesn't seem to make much sense, how did the exocyclic N come in?  is this missing a second stage perhaps?

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Re: Reaction mechanism
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2008, 06:56:59 PM »
Could you give us an idea of what context this reaction is being done for?

I can see that the reaction requires many stages; and might not even be just 'one' mechanism. I mean just by looking at the amine group; its difficult to see how that might be converted into a aldehyde in one step!

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Re: Reaction mechanism
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2008, 09:41:56 PM »
Are you absolutely sure both reactant and product were copied down 100% correctly?

I came up with a very reasonable looking mechanism that breaks the ring, creates an aldehyde group and removes the exocyclic amine group, but the final product has connectivity that is slightly different from yours.
« Last Edit: December 28, 2008, 10:11:26 PM by spirochete »

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Re: Reaction mechanism
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2008, 08:07:21 AM »
I think reaction is incomplete or incorrect.You need to give us more steps.

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Re: Reaction mechanism
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2008, 06:00:26 PM »
You are going to an aromatic system, in the product, so at least there is that.
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