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First Order Rate Law?
« on: January 25, 2009, 08:42:23 PM »
So I have no idea how to do this...help me please.
Using a first order plot, determine the rate constant, K_1, for the oxidation of benzyl alcohol with potassium permanganate at the temperature T_1 = 20.4 Celsius, from the information in the table below. (Molar absorptivity, E = 2350, path length = 1cm)

Time (min)..Absorbance
15....0.794
30....0.604
45....0.431

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Re: First Order Rate Law?
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2009, 09:06:37 PM »

Dear Skip;

With the help of the Beer-Lambert Law and your Epsilon (= 2350 L mol-1 cm-1) you are able to translate the absorptions into concentrations as the first step.

For the second step use the following Link as guidance/help:

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Re: First Order Rate Law?
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2009, 09:37:06 PM »
Okay, I have all my molarities, but the equation in the lab book (to plot a straight line) is

ln[MnO4] = ln[MnO4]0 - kt

To solve for k, would I not need the original molarity (ln[MnO4]0)

How do I find that?

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Re: First Order Rate Law?
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2009, 09:42:45 PM »
Dear Skip;

Read the last line of the help in the given link (y-intercept of the graph!)!

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Re: First Order Rate Law?
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2009, 09:47:43 PM »
Yeah, I understand that it's the y-intercept of the graph, but is the graph not ln[MnO4] vs time? To get the ln[MnO4] values, I thought I would need the value of ln[MnO4]0 already?

By the way, thanks for the continuous help, Argos.

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Re: First Order Rate Law?
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2009, 09:51:56 PM »

Dear Skip;

Please read the line correctly!, -  It is the ln()!

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Re: First Order Rate Law?
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2009, 09:57:01 PM »
I guess I'm NOT understanding...
"and the y-intercept is ln [A]o" so, how would I get that number without knowing all other variables? I only know ln[A], and t, which leaves k and ln [A]o to be solved for.

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Re: First Order Rate Law?
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Re: First Order Rate Law?
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2009, 10:13:53 PM »
Oh my goodness, how silly of me. It's a straight line graph.. I would just have to plot three point and join them, then continue the line.

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Re: First Order Rate Law?
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2009, 10:17:52 PM »

Dear Skip;

Correct!

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