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Help in Redox!
« on: February 15, 2009, 04:14:46 AM »
An acidic solution of MnO4- is used to remove S2- from waste water. The redox reaction forms sulphur (S) and the purple solution turns colourless because of the formation of Mn2+.

how do I balance the redox solution?

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Re: Help in Redox!
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2009, 05:58:09 AM »
It is pretty straightforward since products are given to you but still you need to show your attempts.
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Re: Help in Redox!
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2009, 06:01:29 AM »
If your textbook doesn't help, there are plenty of tutorials on the web. Like this one: balancing redox reactions.
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Re: Help in Redox!
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2009, 06:55:53 AM »
i can only get

[MnO4-] + [8H+] + [5e-] -> [Mn2+] + [4H2O]   ----- (eq1)

[S2-]  ->  + [2e-] --- (eq2) ???

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Re: Help in Redox!
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2009, 07:18:37 AM »
First equation is OK.

You are told what is product in the second half reaction, reread the question.
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Re: Help in Redox!
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2009, 07:28:00 AM »
S2- -> S + 2e-   -- (eq2)

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Re: Help in Redox!
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2009, 07:30:46 AM »
So where is the problem now? Just combine them so that electrons cancel out :)
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Re: Help in Redox!
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2009, 07:39:41 AM »
 :o
sorry, i got confused with my lecturer's answer.
from his answer script it stated : H2S -> S
and i was wondering why is it H2S when the question only states S2- for reactant and S for product.
thanks anyway :)

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Re: Help in Redox!
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2009, 08:39:58 AM »
If you are considering redox reaction, S2- is good enough as the hydrogen in hydrogen sulphide is not the one undergoing oxidation nor reduction. However if you were to write out the full equation, you do need to use H2S. I have no idea why does your lecturer put H2S because there are many sulphide compound, nevertheless, reaction between hydrogen sulphide and potassium permanganate is pretty well known.
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Re: Help in Redox!
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2009, 09:30:21 AM »
This reaction goes in acidic condition, with pKa1 around 7 S2- has to be completely protonated.
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