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pH of Mixture of Solutions?
« on: May 10, 2005, 10:27:34 AM »
What will be the pH of a solution made up by mixing 1 litre of an acid solution of pH 4.2 with 2 litres of another acid solution with a pH of 6.0?

Ive tried a few ways, firstly by averaging the two, by the amount actually in the solution, but im sure this is not right.

The other was taking the stronger pH mixture of which there is more and using that.

Any suggestions of help be appreciated thx.

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Re:pH of Mixture of Solutions?
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2005, 10:42:54 AM »
Assuming these are solutions of strong acids calculate moles amount of H+ in both, add, and divide by the total volume.
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Re:pH of Mixture of Solutions?
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2005, 07:39:13 PM »
WOuld it be same formula for calculation if a base and acid mixed?

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Re:pH of Mixture of Solutions?
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2005, 07:48:30 PM »
No - when you mix acid and base they react to produce water and salt (it is called neutralization) and pH depends on what was in excess - acid or base.
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Re:pH of Mixture of Solutions?
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2005, 08:12:12 AM »
Still having trouble working out my initial question, after following your advice i got something which didnt look right.

6.5 x 10-8

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Re:pH of Mixture of Solutions?
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2005, 08:46:21 AM »
Show details of your calculations.
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Re:pH of Mixture of Solutions?
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2005, 10:19:51 AM »
Borek is correct.

pH = -log(H+)
-4.2 = log H+ =  =0.00006309 mol H/L
-6 = log H+  = 0.000001 mol H/L

2 L (conc of 6 pH solution 0.000001 mol H / L) + 1 L (0.00006309 mol H/L) / 3L
= 0.0000216... mol H / L
- log (0.0000216 mol H/L) = 4.7 pH

Buffering effects will make prediction of the H+ concentration more difficult.  The ideal case is that the H are from strong acid solutions.

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Re:pH of Mixture of Solutions?
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2005, 04:34:40 PM »
Dude: I asked for Sette calculations, not yours  ;)
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