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***HOW DO YOU MAKE WATER WITH OTHER CHEMICALS!?!***
« on: May 12, 2005, 01:11:55 PM »
How do you produce water using just other chemicals, having no water to begin with?
ie with hydrogen peroxide? other stuff neutralizing each other?

will a 100% solution of methyl alcohol neutralize an 80% solution of ethyl alcohol to make water? or i dont know what it does

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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2005, 02:03:54 PM »
Two simplest things coming to mind are synthesis out of gaseous hydrogen and oxygen and neutralization - for example adding anhydrous acetic acid to sodium hydroxide. Also in some polycondensation reactions water is a byproduct.

No idea what you mean by neutralization in repect to methanol and ethanol. They just mix. Besides, using 80% ethanol you use 20% water.
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2005, 02:34:34 PM »
2NH3 + 3CuO -> 3Cu + 3H2O + N2
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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2005, 02:46:02 PM »
geodome's post reminded me of other obvious reaction - reduction of oxides using hydrogen.
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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2005, 03:35:01 PM »
How about via Fisher esterification?

alcohol + carboxylic acid --> ester + water

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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2005, 06:20:01 PM »
If you mix barium hydroxide octahydrate with ammonium chloride (both are solids) you get a rather large quantity of very cold water. (cold enough to freeze pure water around the beaker, for instance).

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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2005, 11:53:04 PM »
Here is the coolest way to do it. Hydrogen plus oxygen plus flame.  :devil2:
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2005, 04:05:51 AM »
Eeee, this one was already posted. I have just deliberately called it 'synthesis' so that it sounds more seriously  ;D
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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2005, 09:39:10 AM »
geodome's post reminded me of other obvious reaction - reduction of oxides using hydrogen.

dealing with oxygen directly is dangerous. i would a prefer a metal oxide with higher oxygen mass%.
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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2005, 11:51:12 AM »
dealing with oxygen directly is dangerous. i would a prefer a metal oxide with higher oxygen mass%.

It must be my English then, metal oxides are part of what I meant by 'oxides' :(
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2005, 12:37:47 PM »
Thanks guys! You helped a lot!  :o

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