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Electrochem and Solubility Products
« on: March 20, 2009, 03:53:06 PM »
I have a value of E I measured and the E° of the Ag E° reference. I know that Ag is being reduced and I have Cl- ions floating in there to form a AgCl precipitate. I used the Ag/AgCl electrode to measure everything.

I also got E = E° - 2.303RT/(nF) * log(activity of Cl-) that I used in earlier calculations.

I always thought of the solubility product as the equilibrium constant K. Can activity be used instead of concentrations? And if so, I'm not sure how this applies to the E and E° to find the solubility product.

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Re: Electrochem and Solubility Products
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2009, 05:13:13 PM »
Reaction quotient should always contain activities.
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Re: Electrochem and Solubility Products
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2009, 03:50:20 PM »
So then I think it should be:
Ksp = 1 / (activity of Cl- x activity of Ag+)
but I don't have the concentration or the activity of the silver ion. How does Eo come into play?

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Re: Electrochem and Solubility Products
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2009, 04:00:39 PM »
What are you trying to do?
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Re: Electrochem and Solubility Products
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2009, 08:09:07 PM »
My ultimate goal is to calculate the solubility product of AgCl experimentally.
I've made standard solutions of KCl and made a calibration curve and measured an unknown. I have the activity and concentration of the chloride ion but I don't have the activity of the silver ion (because the silver came from the Ag/AgCl electrode). I also graphed E vs log of the activity of the chloride. I've also asked for help from the instructor and she hinted at the the idea of using the values for Eo and the value of Eo for the reduction of silver metal to calculate the solubility product. The problem is, I don't see how it's done (no matter how simple it may be).

Ag+  + Cl- --> AgCl s
AgCls + electron ---> Ags + Cl-
E = Eo - 2.303RT/(nF)*log(activity of chloride)

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Re: Electrochem and Solubility Products
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2009, 02:59:12 PM »
E = E0 + RT/F ln aAg+

If silver electrode is covered with solid AgCl, activity of Ag+ near the electrode surface is

aAg+ = Ksp/aCl-

Put it into the Nernst equation. ln(Ksp) is constant. Do you see how the E0 of Ag/Agcl electrode depends on the E0 of the Ag/Ag+ electrode and Ksp?
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Re: Electrochem and Solubility Products
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2009, 12:11:09 AM »
I see it now.
Thank you again Borek!

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