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Offline mandy9008

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balancing redox reactions
« on: March 19, 2009, 05:38:49 PM »
i know how to do them, it just takes me such a long time.
i have been practicing and practicing to try to increase my speed, but i have a quiz coming up and its timed and im afraid that i will run out of time taking it.
if anyone has any tips on how to increase my speed, with accuracy and confidence, they will be greatly appreciated!
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Re: balancing redox reactions
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2009, 05:57:16 PM »
i know how to do them, it just takes me such a long time.
i have been practicing and practicing to try to increase my speed, but i have a quiz coming up and its timed and im afraid that i will run out of time taking it.
if anyone has any tips on how to increase my speed, with accuracy and confidence, they will be greatly appreciated!
thanks
+M
Give two examples of questions you attempted plus what you tried so we can see clearly where you are going wrong. We may only need to correct a small fault - rather than trying to impose a completely different, alien method on you.

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Re: balancing redox reactions
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2009, 06:20:42 PM »
FU: Zn(s) + AgNO3(aq)  :rarrow: Zn(NO3)2(aq) + Ag(s)

total ionic:  Zn + Ag+ + NO3-  :rarrow: Zn2+ + 2NO3- + Ag

net ionic: (take out spectators)   Zn + Ag+  :rarrow: Zn2+ + Ag

oxidation: Zn :rarrow: Zn2+ + 2e-
              0       2+
                       0
reduction: [1 e- + Ag+  :rarrow: Ag]2
                         1+         0
                         0

balanced net: Zn + 2Ag+ :rarrow: Zn2+ + 2Ag

balanced FU: Zn(s) + 2AgNO3(a1)  :rarrow: Zn(NO3)2(aq) + 2Ag(s)

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Re: balancing redox reactions
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2009, 06:25:51 PM »
one that i am having trouble identifying the oxidation and reduction for:

Mn2+ + PbO2 + H+  :rarrow: MnO4- + Pb2+ + H2O

i recognized the oxidation as :
Mn2+  :rarrow: MnO4- + 2e-

for the reduction: i dont think that it is the Pb because the oxidation numbers are the same, 2+, and im not sure if the reduction can be with the H+ and H2O

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Re: balancing redox reactions
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2009, 03:51:01 AM »
FU: Zn(s) + AgNO3(aq)  :rarrow: Zn(NO3)2(aq) + Ag(s)

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Aha !

An application of Mitch rule number 1.

Do you have a balanced equation? Hint: How many nitrates on each side?

Once you correct that then the rest of your method looks very clear - so reapply it and see what happens

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Re: balancing redox reactions
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2009, 03:52:49 AM »
Mn2+ + PbO2 + H+  :rarrow: MnO4- + Pb2+ + H2O
Again, this equation is not balanced. For example, look at hydrogen and oxygen on each side of the equation.

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Re: balancing redox reactions
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2009, 03:57:35 AM »
one that i am having trouble identifying the oxidation and reduction for:

Mn2+ + PbO2 + H+  :rarrow: MnO4- + Pb2+ + H2O

i recognized the oxidation as :
Mn2+  :rarrow: MnO4- + 2e-

for the reduction: i dont think that it is the Pb because the oxidation numbers are the same, 2+, and im not sure if the reduction can be with the H+ and H2O
I think Pd is reduced in it..from +4 to +2 oxygen is -2.

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Re: balancing redox reactions
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2009, 04:00:49 AM »
Its not H that's reduced.. Its Pb...from +4 to +2...Oxygen is -2..

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Re: balancing redox reactions
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2009, 04:40:07 PM »
Balanced equation anyone?

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Re: balancing redox reactions
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2009, 05:02:45 PM »
Its

2Mn2+  +  5PbO2   +  4H+  -------->5Pb2+   +   2MnO4-  +2H2O


right?

so Pb :  +4 ---> +2 reduction

Mn : +2 -----> +7  Oxidation

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Re: balancing redox reactions
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2009, 04:33:25 AM »
Its

2Mn2+  +  5PbO2   +  4H+  -------->5Pb2+   +   2MnO4-  +2H2O


right?

so Pb :  +4 ---> +2 reduction

Mn : +2 -----> +7  Oxidation
Mandy9008,

Las has correctly balanced the original equation. Can you now split it up to show the half equations and confirm the change of oxidation states that Las has written?



Las,

Can you use the "sup" and "sub" buttons when writing an equation as that makes it a bit easier to determine if


MnO4-  means MnO4- or MnO4-

Regards

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Re: balancing redox reactions
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2009, 08:52:55 AM »
oh..lol..sure..I didnt really notice it..thanks

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Re: balancing redox reactions
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2009, 05:53:14 AM »

Aha !

An application of Mitch rule number 1.

Do you have a balanced equation? Hint: How many nitrates on each side?

Once you correct that then the rest of your method looks very clear - so reapply it and see what happens

Clive
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Sr, can you tell me what is the Mitch rule ?
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Re: balancing redox reactions
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2009, 05:55:46 AM »
Look for Mitch posts on the forum and read his signature :)
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