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Find the total gas pressure
« on: April 17, 2009, 03:37:20 AM »
My problem is:
1.00 mol of CO and 1.00 mol of Cl2 are introduced into an evacuated 1.75 L flask and the following equilibrium is established at 668 K:
CO (g) + Cl2 (g) ↔ COCl2 (g)
The reaction has a Kp = 22.5.  What is the total gas pressure at equilibrium?

I guess I am confused where to start. I've found other problems, but with different information, so I got confused. I know I am going to use the ideal gas law. But do I need to form some sort of ICE chart? I know the temp, R constant, and the moles, but where does the Kp come into play?


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Re: Find the total gas pressure
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2009, 05:29:24 AM »
So, from your ICE table, what is the composition of the equilibrium mixture?

So how much gas do you have, and what is the value of p?

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Re: Find the total gas pressure
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2009, 05:39:18 AM »
Well in an ice chart. I need to have the initial concentration, which is one mol of Co and 1 mol of Cl2. I am not given p, just a constant Kp of 22.5.

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Re: Find the total gas pressure
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2009, 07:18:41 AM »
One mole of Co, or one of CO, initially? (there's a difference)

Your numerical value for Kp is 22.5, what's the algebraic expression for it?


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Re: Find the total gas pressure
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2009, 12:05:18 PM »
I am assuming its the initial amount since it says they were introduced into the flack. I wasn't given an algebraic expression, just the CO(g) + Cl()g) <--> CoCl(g). Thats why I thought I might need to create the  ICE chart?

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Re: Find the total gas pressure
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2009, 03:36:46 PM »
...I wasn't given an algebraic expression...

So you're not familiar with the concept of K = products/reactants ?

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Re: Find the total gas pressure
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2009, 03:42:01 AM »
I think I'm familiar with it, but I am missing some connection. I feel like I have enough information to find the partial pressure using the ideal gas law, but I don't use the Kp value in the formula, so I feel like I'm am missing something really important.

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Re: Find the total gas pressure
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2009, 03:47:19 AM »
What are the initial pressures of CO and Cl2? How do they change over the course of the reaction? What are the equilibrium pressures of the individual gases in your system?

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Re: Find the total gas pressure
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2009, 03:59:26 AM »
So once I complete the ICE chart, what would be the next step. In other words what information do I take from the ICE chart to get to the next step?

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Re: Find the total gas pressure
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2009, 06:39:14 AM »
Once you complete your ICE chart, you can calculate how much of each of the components you have at equilibrium (using the Kp). and so the total pressure.

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