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Offline warnie

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Determination of chromium in steel
« on: April 22, 2009, 09:46:46 AM »
While determining chromium in carbon steel sample why do we add both H2SO4 and H3PO4 to dissolve the sample?

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Re: Determination of chromium in steel
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2009, 10:36:01 AM »
Well, to start a discussion on the options, what other acids do you know of, that you can choose?
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Re: Determination of chromium in steel
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2009, 09:39:19 AM »
I meant why H2SO4 can't serve the purpose alone? Other acid which can be used may be HNO3.

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Re: Determination of chromium in steel
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2009, 09:41:54 AM »
Other acid which can be used may be HNO3.

I was waiting for that one.  Bwa-Ha-Ha.  Look up passivation.  If you want to analyze steel samples that contain chromium, and nickel, along with iron, you don't use nitric acid.
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Re: Determination of chromium in steel
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2009, 10:22:43 AM »
Thanks!!!!.But Sir I was actually asked that why H2SO4 alone can't dissolve the sample ,why I need H3PO4 also?

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Re: Determination of chromium in steel
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2009, 10:39:51 AM »
Probably a similar reason, that you ,might be able to find, in a metallurgy analytical text.  I'm not an expert on the subject, but I did want to give you a useful hint, to give you something to think about, to try and deduce an answer.  Can you use something yo know about the reactions in the analytical step that might need phosphate present?
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Re: Determination of chromium in steel
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2009, 01:53:31 PM »
Probably a similar reason, that you ,might be able to find, in a metallurgy analytical text.  I'm not an expert on the subject, but I did want to give you a useful hint, to give you something to think about, to try and deduce an answer.  Can you use something yo know about the reactions in the analytical step that might need phosphate present?
I'm curious about it too. What is the purpose of H3PO4?

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