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Offline ArchStanton

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Purification of Stannanes?
« on: August 24, 2009, 04:17:16 PM »
I am trying to make a thiazole stannane on a small scale (less than 500 mg as the sm is very expensive). It will not run down a column and in its crude form the following coupling reaction doesn't work.

Any one got any ideas or experience in this area?

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Re: Purification of Stannanes?
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2009, 11:38:46 PM »
can you sketch out the stannane and its coupling partner?

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Re: Purification of Stannanes?
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2009, 08:30:47 AM »
I have attached the structures.

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Re: Purification of Stannanes?
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2009, 09:46:24 AM »
do you need the stannane for that? I'm not sure off the top of my head, but i think at least some thiazoles can be functionalised at that position by C-H activation.

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Re: Purification of Stannanes?
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2009, 04:10:22 AM »
do you need the stannane for that? I'm not sure off the top of my head, but i think at least some thiazoles can be functionalised at that position by C-H activation.

You are right, they can be. Thats something we might do if this doesn't work.

There is a series of nice papers, detailing aryl iodide couplings with thiazole. (Org. Lett., 2008, 10 (13), pp 2909–2912, J. AM. CHEM. SOC. 2003, 125, 1700-1701)  There are regio chemical issues with the 4/5 position being substituted as well. Also a range of conditions have been reported so we thought we would try the easy option. As always with chemistry that NEVER works out.


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Re: Purification of Stannanes?
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2009, 06:07:36 AM »
Indeed. The more convoluted and painful a route is, the more likely it will work out.

There is some nice work with Ru catalysts (or was it Rh?) that can C-H functionalise a variety of azoles; from memory thiazoles were not so good yield wise but I think they worked. The functionalisation goes via the coordinated N-heterocyclic carbene in this system, so I'd expect selectivity to be very good for C2. I'll see if I can think of the ref.
NB: I've done a (non-Stille) Pd coupling on a similar iodide to yours, and the N(Boc)2 protected iodide behaved very nicely.

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