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Offline poorstudent83

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Removal of OH group
« on: August 26, 2009, 08:49:42 AM »
Hi,

I'm looking for a mechanism for the attached reaction. Every mechanism i come across results in the formation of an alkene...any help would be appreciated!

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Re: Removal of OH group
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2009, 01:15:05 PM »
That's because dehydration is the preferred mechanism. Even though I'm not familiar with any of them, methods exist for the selective reduction of the alkene part of enones. If they would work with a strained system such as yours remains to be seen, however.

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Re: Removal of OH group
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2009, 07:59:21 PM »
Protect the alcohol, acetal, deprotect, oxidize, wolff-kishner, go back to carbonyl.  Pretty rough conditions for that ring I guess.  Probably wouldn't make it past the oxidation.

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Re: Removal of OH group
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2009, 06:30:40 AM »
I'm looking for a mechanism for the attached reaction. Every mechanism i come across results in the formation of an alkene...any help would be appreciated!

Do you know this reaction works or is this your own suggested strategy?

That's because dehydration is the preferred mechanism.

Even in a four membered ring? Cyclobut-2-enone has three sp2 centres in a four membered ring - that's super strained and could quite plausibly direct the reaction towards nucleophilic substitution. I'm just speculating here though.

What about triflation/mesylation etc. followed by iodide followed by H2/Pd? 
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Re: Removal of OH group
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2009, 07:59:59 AM »
barton-mccombie's a one-stepper (two if you have to isolate the xanthate ester)

http://www.organic-chemistry.org/namedreactions/barton-mccombie-reaction.shtm
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Re: Removal of OH group
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2009, 10:42:00 AM »
I apologise if I've annoyed anyone but the structures I've displayed are wrong. It's actually a very large ring (proper structures attached). Again, I apologise for the error! I've seen this reaction in a paper and am very curious about its mechanism.

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Re: Removal of OH group
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2009, 10:54:02 AM »
I apologise if I've annoyed anyone but the structures I've displayed are wrong. It's actually a very large ring (proper structures attached). Again, I apologise for the error! I've seen this reaction in a paper and am very curious about its mechanism.

don't suppose you have the DOI for the paper?

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Re: Removal of OH group
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2009, 12:00:05 PM »
Even in a four membered ring? Cyclobut-2-enone has three sp2 centres in a four membered ring - that's super strained and could quite plausibly direct the reaction towards nucleophilic substitution. I'm just speculating here though.
It's been done using the bromo derivative and an amine base, so it's at least a possibility.

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Re: Removal of OH group
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2009, 04:14:16 AM »
Problem solved, the reaction was taken from a review. On inspection of the original paper, I found that the reaction in the review was incorrect. Apologies to everyone!

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