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volume of NaOH in titration
« on: September 13, 2009, 04:12:26 PM »
A vinegar sample was analyzed and found to be 5.88% acetic acid by volume. The density of pure acetic acid is 1.046 g/ml. What volume of 0.200 M NaOH would be required to titrate a 2 ml aliquot of this vinegar??   Can anyone help me?. I have never heard of titration .=)

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Re: volume of NaOH in titration
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2009, 04:38:19 PM »
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Re: volume of NaOH in titration
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2009, 04:49:08 PM »
ok, so I attempted to answer the question and got an answer of 9.26 mL of 0.200 M NaOH.....can anyone confirm this answer(Is it right???)??? pls...

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Re: volume of NaOH in titration
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2009, 05:08:25 PM »
Show how you got there.
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Re: volume of NaOH in titration
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2009, 05:21:42 PM »
first off I found the number of moles for acetic acid which I got as 0.116 mol. Next I determined the volume of NaOH by converting 2 mL of acetic acid into litres (0.002 L) then multiplied that by the number of moles of acetic acid, and finally multiplied that value (0.232 mol) by the molar mass of NaOH.....wait a minute!!!!!!!! I think I found the mass not the volume, s**t.   NOW WAT DO I DO????

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Re: volume of NaOH in titration
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2009, 06:26:51 PM »
first off I found the number of moles for acetic acid which I got as 0.116 mol

How.

Note, that once you know number of moles of acetic acid, you are almost there - thats what you need to calculate stoichiometric amount of base.
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Re: volume of NaOH in titration
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2009, 09:04:46 PM »
I used the given info about 0.002 L of acetic acid, then I found the molar mass of acetic acid from the periodic table and calculated the mol of acetic acid. So how do i go about finishing the problem

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Re: volume of NaOH in titration
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2009, 11:04:23 PM »
hey psycho. Well i think i know where you got the question from and i'm also working on the same question for my lab.

I did the question and got an answer but i'm not sure if it is correct.. heres how i did it, i'll write it step by step.

1. Equation- CH3COOH + NaOH = CH3COONa + H2O
2. n=C x V
    since, n (NaOH) = n (CH3COOH)
    therefore, C(NaOH) x V(NaOH) = C(CH3COOH) x V(CH3COOH)
3. V(CH3COOH) = 0.0588 x 2mL = 0.1176mL
    Mass(CH3COOH) = 0.1176mL x 1.049g/mL = 0.1233624g
    Molar Weight of CH3COOH is 60.062g/mol
    C(CH3COOH) = 0.1233624g / 60.062g/mol = 0.00205392 mol/mL

 (0.1176mL x 0.00205392mol/mL) / 0.0002mol/mL = 1.2 mL


my answer seems abit off, thats why i'm asking for help. :(

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Re: volume of NaOH in titration
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2009, 02:37:41 AM »
I used the given info about 0.002 L of acetic acid, then I found the molar mass of acetic acid from the periodic table and calculated the mol of acetic acid.

Sorry, but the way you have presented your approach doesn't say a word about what you really did - and the amount of acid you have calculated is wrong.
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Re: volume of NaOH in titration
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2009, 02:44:53 AM »
C(NaOH) x V(NaOH) = C(CH3COOH) x V(CH3COOH)

Correct in general - note that product on the right is just a number of moles

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C(CH3COOH) = 0.1233624g / 60.062g/mol = 0.00205392 mol/mL

Partially correct. Where does mL in the result comes from?

That is - it is as correct as it can be given type of information you were shown, that's not correct in gereneral, but that's not your fault. Whoever asked the question should think twice.

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(0.1176mL x 0.00205392mol/mL) / 0.0002mol/mL = 1.2 mL

That's where you have gone awry, but that's effect of earlier mistake. 0.00205392 is not concentration.
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Re: volume of NaOH in titration
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2009, 07:45:24 AM »
I'm sorry but we never used these formulas in high school as we never got to them and even learned...aside from density(back in grade 9 only =)...)   Pls can u tell us how to answer it and wat the final answer should be?

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Re: volume of NaOH in titration
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2009, 09:16:09 AM »
Some basic things:

http://www.chembuddy.com/?left=concentration&right=toc

http://www.chembuddy.com/?left=balancing-stoichiometry&right=toc

But if you need to go deeper (that is moles/masses) you will have to look somewhere else.
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Re: volume of NaOH in titration
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2009, 05:47:24 PM »
May I ask why you're doing this problem? Is it out of your own self-interest? Because I find it quite weird that any teacher would assign a problem involving a titration without first showing their students the very most basic chemistry formulae.

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Re: volume of NaOH in titration
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2009, 11:23:54 AM »
I also find it unusual that someone at undergraduate chemistry level has never heard of titration  ???
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