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QUICK QUESTION: The Quantum Mechanical Model of the Atom
« on: September 29, 2009, 11:57:47 PM »
Which are the following sets of quantum numbers are not allowed for an orbital?

1. n=4 l=3 ml= 4 <--- why doesn't this one work

Answer says because of this

ml = 2l+1 -->      2(3)+1 = 7 so ml has to be -3, -2, -1, 0, +1, +2, +3

if that is the case how come this set of quantum number work

2. n=8 l=7 and ml= -6

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Re: QUICK QUESTION: The Quantum Mechanical Model of the Atom
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2009, 12:07:27 AM »
For l = 7, the allowed values of ml range from -7 to 7.  In general, ml ranges from -l to l.

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Re: QUICK QUESTION: The Quantum Mechanical Model of the Atom
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2009, 12:25:35 AM »
Yeah but how does that make ml = -6? If it ranges from -7 - 7 wouldn't that be -7, -6, -5, -4, -3, -2, -1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ?

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Re: QUICK QUESTION: The Quantum Mechanical Model of the Atom
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2009, 01:24:26 AM »
-6 is among the allowed values of ml.  2 would also work, or -5 or 4, or 0, etc.  However, any value outside of that range would not work.

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Re: QUICK QUESTION: The Quantum Mechanical Model of the Atom
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2009, 03:09:37 AM »
Yeah but how does that make ml = -6?

It doesn't "make" it. It just allows ml=-6.

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If it ranges from -7 - 7 wouldn't that be -7, -6, -5, -4, -3, -2, -1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ?

Any of these will do. It just means that it is possible that for n=8 & l=7 there can exist electron with ml = -6. There can exist also electron with ml=3 or ml=0, or even ml=7, but not one with ml = 11. It dosn't mean that such electron DOES exist, it will exist (in the ground state) only in elements that have enough electrons to fill orbitals up to this one.
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