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Offline Nemesisof99

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Acidity of oxides
« on: November 30, 2009, 11:49:05 AM »
When it is said that N2O3 is more acidic than P2O3, what actually shows the acidity of nitrogen trioxide? Is it that the two nitrogen atoms can accept an electron pair, thereby being a Lewis acid? Can you please tell me of a few instances where this happens?

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Re: Acidity of oxides
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2009, 11:00:13 PM »
Think in terms of non-metallic nature.

Non-metallic oxides + water = acid

hope this helps
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Re: Acidity of oxides
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2009, 12:16:51 AM »
Pretty much what Schrodinger said.

Do the reaction of both N2O3 and P2O3 with water, what acids do you get?

Here is N2O3 to help get you started.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinitrogen_trioxide

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Re: Acidity of oxides
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2009, 12:55:15 PM »
Thanks..still tryin to get my basics clear. I like inorganic chemistry now.  8)

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Re: Acidity of oxides
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2009, 07:01:44 PM »
When it is said that N2O3 is more acidic than P2O3, what actually shows the acidity of nitrogen trioxide? Is it that the two nitrogen atoms can accept an electron pair, thereby being a Lewis acid?
Yes. 

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Can you please tell me of a few instances where this happens?
BF3 + NH3 --> F3B-NH3
Boron accept a lone pair from nitrogen forming a covalent bond.
Others are, e.g., here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_acids_and_bases

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Re: Acidity of oxides
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2010, 01:33:48 AM »
one more thing :
P2O3 on hydrolysis provides one acid , while N2O3  provides us with two acids.

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Re: Acidity of oxides
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2010, 03:10:38 AM »
one more thing :
P2O3 on hydrolysis provides one acid , while N2O3  provides us with two acids.

What does that have to do with acidity  ???

I mean, let's compare SO3 and N2O3. When hydrolysed, the former produces H2SO4 and the latter gives 2 oxoacids of Nitrogen , both of which are weaker than H2SO4.
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Re: Acidity of oxides
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2010, 03:52:21 AM »
one more thing :
P2O3 on hydrolysis provides one acid , while N2O3  provides us with two acids.
Are you sure?
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Re: Acidity of oxides
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2010, 07:20:10 AM »
one more thing :
P2O3 on hydrolysis provides one acid , while N2O3  provides us with two acids.
Are you sure?

@AWK: I am confused  ??? . Which one is a mixed anhydride : N2O3 or N2O4?

Well, my guess  :P : N2O3 gives just HNO2 on hydrolysis
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Re: Acidity of oxides
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2010, 03:22:39 AM »
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Re: Acidity of oxides
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2010, 07:37:49 AM »
@AWK: I am confused  ??? . Which one is a mixed anhydride : N2O3 or N2O4?
The second:

N2O4 + H2:rarrow:  HNO2 + HNO3

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Re: Acidity of oxides
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2010, 01:49:58 AM »
What does mean term - mixed anhydride?
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Re: Acidity of oxides
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2010, 10:13:17 AM »
I thought the term meant 'an anhydride that gives more than one acid on hydrolysis'.
i.e, It is 'made' of 2 acids.
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Re: Acidity of oxides
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