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Rydberg's equation
« on: December 08, 2009, 09:46:21 PM »
Here's the question:

Calculate the wavelength of the light that is absorbed for the electron's transition from n=5 to n=6 in Fe25+ ion. (ans in nm.)

1/λ = RH[(1/n12) - (1/n22)]

RH = 1.097*107
n1 = 5
n2 = 6

here's what I got:
λ = 7.458*103 nm

But the answer key says it's wrong.  Does anyone want to try it?

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Re: Rydberg's equation
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2009, 10:16:57 PM »
what answer does the key give?

if iron is a hydrogen like element (im not sure) and i use the rydberg i get 7591 nm which is a bit off of urs

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Re: Rydberg's equation
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2009, 11:19:00 PM »
I don't have a real answer key, actually.. I'm doing these questions online and when I enter an answer, it's programmed to tell me whether I'm right or not. 

I tried yours, and it's still telling me "incorrect", so I'm not sure what the problem is. 

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Re: Rydberg's equation
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2009, 11:21:20 PM »
Fe+25 (although I have no idea why that would ever exist in nature - these questions are ridiculous, why don't they just say H?) would have one electron, so I think it would qualify as hydrogen-like. 
If it wasn't, would there be any way to solve it?

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Re: Rydberg's equation
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2009, 03:39:10 AM »
You use incorrect value for Rydberg constant. RH - what does H stands for?

Fe+25 (although I have no idea why that would ever exist in nature - these questions are ridiculous, why don't they just say H?)

Not very likely to be observed, but technically possible. Besides, the questions is not ridiculous, it just proved you don't understand how the model works and what parameters are important when calculating wavelengths.
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Re: Rydberg's equation
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2009, 02:58:10 PM »
Well the answer seems to be correct though you may need to check the number of significant figures.
What I mean is -If it has been programmed that 7.46*103 is correct answer it may not accept 7.458*103 as correct.
So don't bother about it
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Re: Rydberg's equation
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2009, 03:11:15 PM »
Well the answer seems to be correct

Sure. What does H in RH stands for?
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Re: Rydberg's equation
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2009, 03:15:13 PM »
OH!!!  :o
Right H stands for hydrogen
There should be another factor Z2 to RHS of the equation 1/λ = RH[(1/n12) - (1/n22)]

Right Borek?
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Re: Rydberg's equation
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2009, 04:37:30 PM »
I have no idea what you guys are talking about.  ... Am I using the wrong RH?  and what about Z2 ?

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Re: Rydberg's equation
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2009, 04:41:52 PM »
Hey
THe equation should've been
1/λ = RH*Z2[(1/n12) - (1/n22)]
here Z=26 (Fe)
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Re: Rydberg's equation
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2009, 05:07:48 PM »
Thanks so much I didn't know about that at all. 

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Re: Rydberg's equation
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2009, 05:16:55 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rydberg_constant

When you solve for energy of the electron in the Bohr model, you find that energy depends on the charge of nucleus - the higher the charge, the higher the energy. Charge of nucleus is denoted by Z. For hydrogen it is 1, so it is ignored, but for other hydrogen-like ions (that is, ions with exactly one electron) Z is an important factor.
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Re: Rydberg's equation
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2009, 05:19:54 PM »
Quote from: Borek
When you solve for energy of the electron in the Bohr model, you find that energy depends on the charge of nucleus - the higher the charge, the higher the energy. Charge of nucleus is denoted by Z. For hydrogen it is 1, so it is ignored, but for other hydrogen-like ions (that is, ions with exactly one electron) Z is an important factor.
@Borek
Thanks for reminding me that I nearly forgot :-[
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