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boiling point ??? help
« on: January 24, 2010, 10:29:11 PM »
Which solute would cause water to have a higher boiling point? MgCl2 or KCl.  Please Explain. 

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Re: boiling point ??? help
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2010, 12:02:20 AM »
Remember that the boiling point elevation is proportional to the van't Hoff factor, which is the number of separate species formed from the solution of one molecule/compound. So, for example, the van't Hoff factor of NaI is 2, since NaI dissolve to give Na+ and I-.

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Re: boiling point ??? help
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2010, 02:56:47 AM »
Remember that the boiling point elevation is proportional to the van't Hoff factor, which is the number of separate species formed from the solution of one molecule/compound. So, for example, the van't Hoff factor of NaI is 2, since NaI dissolve to give Na+ and I-.
I case of KCl, we can assume complete dissociation and take i=2.(Van't Hoff factor)

But in cases such as MgCl2, don't you also need to take into account its hydrolysis (the equilibrium thingy?...just to be accurate)
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Re: boiling point ??? help
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2010, 03:19:23 AM »
But in cases such as MgCl2, don't you also need to take into account its hydrolysis (the equilibrium thingy?...just to be accurate)

In general - yes.
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Re: boiling point ??? help
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2010, 02:47:52 AM »
im sorry...im still loss on which solute would cause water to have a higher boiling point??? would it be mgcl2 because of electronegativity? 

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Re: boiling point ??? help
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2010, 07:18:44 AM »
Well, if you were to consider complete dissociation of ions, then $$ i=3 /$$ for MgCl2 and $$ i=2 /$$ for KCl.

So, elevation in boiling point being directly proportional to $$ i /$$, it would be greater for MgCl2.
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