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Offline sabbiikram

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why p orbital have dumb bell shape
« on: February 09, 2010, 12:00:44 PM »
why p orbital have dumb bell shape

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Re: why p orbital have dumb bell shape
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2010, 02:25:35 PM »
Because that's their shape - I don't think you can state any reason, that's just the way it is.

Why do humans have 5 fingers at each hand?
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Re: why p orbital have dumb bell shape
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2010, 01:29:51 AM »
Because that's their shape - I don't think you can state any reason, that's just the way it is.

Why do humans have 5 fingers at each hand?

actually we have 4 fingers and a thumb...this is due to evolution

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Re: why p orbital have dumb bell shape
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2010, 08:50:19 AM »
Just ask any creationist or intelligent design specialist and they will inform you that we have 5 fingers b/c that's the way God made Adam and Eve  ;D
Sorry thejman but your "facts" and "peer reviewed science" regarding evolution just don't match the direct word of God.   ;D

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Re: why p orbital have dumb bell shape
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2010, 10:45:48 AM »
why p orbital have dumb bell shape

Because of the wave nature of electrons.

Electrons in p-orbitals are located around the nucleus. It is a bit like the electron is evolving inside a box, where it follows stationary oscillation modes: oscillations which are stable in time.

Here is a picture of different stationary modes of a vibrating string http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Harmonic_partials_on_strings.svg
You can imagine that it is the shape of a 1-dimensional wave function. The first one, on top, would be a s-orbital. The second one would be a p-orbital.

In a 3-dimensional space, the oscillating stationary modes take the shape of s, p, d and f orbitals as we know them. One could as well continue and calculate the shape of g-orbitals, even though no chemical element has them. It is just mathematics.  ;)

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Re: why p orbital have dumb bell shape
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2010, 03:06:36 PM »
Just ask any creationist or intelligent design specialist and they will inform you that we have 5 fingers b/c that's the way God made Adam and Eve  ;D
Sorry thejman but your "facts" and "peer reviewed science" regarding evolution just don't match the direct word of God.   ;D


At the risk of going "off topic", thow is the bible the "Direct word of God" Authorship of the old testament wasn't attributable to Adam who didn't turn up until Day 6 of Creation.

If it's one of his decendents then its all hearsy at best and wouldn't stand up to a half decent GLP audit.
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