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Buffer Solutions
« on: November 09, 2010, 06:58:00 PM »
Which combinations of equal volumes of solution will result in buffer solutions?

I.   0.1 M HCl and 0.1 M NH3
II.   0.1 M HNO2 and 0.05 M NaOH
III.   0.05 M HNO2 and 0.05 M NH3

So the answer key tells me that the answer is I and III. Since HCl is a strong acid, it reacts completely with NH3 to form 0.1 M NH4+, so how is I a buffer solution? And why is II NOT a buffer solution if the NaOH reacts completely with 0.05 M HNO2 to form 0.05 M NO3-, which leaves 0.05 M HNO2? Shouldn’t the answer be II and III?

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Re: Buffer Solutions
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2010, 07:27:31 PM »
My intuition says that I and III are not buffers, and that only II is...

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Re: Buffer Solutions
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2010, 04:19:44 AM »
Answer I and III is for
Which combinations of equal volumes of solution will not result in buffer solutions?
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Re: Buffer Solutions
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2010, 03:33:45 PM »
well before I looked it up though, it says here http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080901014919AA4SaZY that HNO2/NH3 could kind of be a buffer. is that wrong?

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Re: Buffer Solutions
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2010, 04:16:05 PM »
Whoever answered the question at yahoo has no idea what he is talking about.

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The equilibrium for this reaction lies far to the left
NH3 + HNO2 <==> NH4+ + NO2-

This is complete nonsense. 0.025M solution of ammonium nitrite (assuming it exists and is stable) contains about 0.1% of nitrous acid and 0.1% of ammonia. That means equilibrium lies far to the right, unless I don't know which hand is which.

For sure buffer capacity of this solution is higher than buffer capacity of sodium chloride solution, but I would not call it a buffer.
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Re: Buffer Solutions
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2010, 06:56:36 PM »
This is complete nonsense. 0.025M solution of ammonium nitrite (assuming it exists and is stable) contains about 0.1% of nitrous acid and 0.1% of ammonia. That means equilibrium lies far to the right, unless I don't know which hand is which.

Just wondering, why does the equilibrium lie far to the right?

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Re: Buffer Solutions
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2010, 03:56:45 AM »
They are weak, but not not very weak, and they are still strong enough to neutralize each other.
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