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What happens when COOH loses Hydrogen

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Offline samiam

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What happens when COOH loses Hydrogen
« on: January 15, 2011, 09:48:05 AM »
So COOH-->COO^- + H^+
why is the molecule now negative because we treat H as a proton? so now COO has one less proton so more electrons giving it a negative charge?

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Re: What happens when COOH loses Hydrogen
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2011, 12:15:58 PM »
So COOH-->COO^- + H^+
why is the molecule now negative because we treat H as a proton? so now COO has one less proton so more electrons giving it a negative charge?


also if nitrogen can only form 3 bonds how can H3N+-C exist in amino acids..

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Re: What happens when COOH loses Hydrogen
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2011, 02:25:50 PM »
Charges have to balance out. If you take a proton from a neutral molecule, the remaining molecule has to have a charge of -1, since -1 + 1 = 0.

Who told you that nitrogen can only form 3 bonds?

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Re: What happens when COOH loses Hydrogen
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2011, 09:29:45 PM »
3 bonds is common for nitrogen in a lot of cases but there are others. The best example is the entire set of oxides of nitrogen : N2O, NO, NO2, N2O3, N2O4, N2O5.

Another example, the nitrate ion, nitrogen has 5 bonds.

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Re: What happens when COOH loses Hydrogen
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2011, 10:22:42 PM »
Nitrate ion has 4 bonds, not 5.

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