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name of electron configuration
« on: September 23, 2005, 07:03:08 AM »
I wonder how we call the outer electron configuration state of Ar, Fe3+ and Na+? Are they "Full", "half-full" and what else? can anyone help me to correct these words? Thank you.

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Re:name of electron configuration
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2005, 05:41:26 PM »
can you list their electronic configurations?
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Re:name of electron configuration
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2005, 01:08:47 AM »
They are Ar: 1s2 2s2 2p6 3s2 3p6; Fe3+: 1s2 2s2 2p6 3s2 3p6 3d5 (each obital has one electron); Na+:  1s2 2s2 2p6. Could you name each of their states for me?

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Re:name of electron configuration
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2005, 07:32:16 PM »
Ar: 1s2 2s2 2p6 3s2 3p6
Although there are 3d orbitals, the energy level between 3p and 3d is so big that the configuration for 3s2 3p6 is considered full.

Fe3+: 1s2 2s2 2p6 3s2 3p6 3d5
It is considered half-filled because the 3d subshell can contain a max of 10electrons and it already contain 5.

Na+:  1s2 2s2 2p6
This is full because all the 2nd shell already contain the maximum number of electrons.
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Re:name of electron configuration
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2005, 09:24:55 AM »
Thank you, geodome.

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Re:name of electron configuration
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2005, 06:46:48 AM »
Hi Geodome,
Is there any other name of electron configuration outer shell beside "full" and "half-fill"? For example, of K+: we call "full", but that is not an atom so someone call it as "un real full", is that right?
I also have this question: I understand that Ar is "full" but I wonder the way you explained. If the energy level between 3p and 3d is so big so how could S in H2SO4 has +6 oxidation number? It must in high energy state with 1 electron in 3s subshell, 3 electrons in 3p  and 2 more in 3d.

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Re:name of electron configuration
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2005, 12:47:54 PM »
K+ is an atom and it does exist! If you have any questions about it, communicate it with your body's cells. :P
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