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Volume of Acid to Change pH of Water
« on: July 04, 2011, 03:32:18 PM »
Hello,

I am trying to figure out the volume of 0.3M HCl required to change the pH of 1 L of water from 11.5 to 8.0. I have figured out concentrations of H+ at pH 8 (10-8) and at pH 11.5 (3.16x10-12) but unsure of where to go from here.

I let (1+x)=volume of the solution after X liters of HCl have been added
and 0.3x = moles of H+ in the water.
I wanted to use the equation below to solve for x, but I am starting at pH = 11.5 so I do not think it works.

(0.3x)/(1+x) = 10-8

I greatly appreciate any help on this.

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Re: Volume of Acid to Change pH of Water
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2011, 04:52:34 PM »
In general there is not enough information to solve this question, as you are not told WHY the solution has pH 11.5 - and that's the crucial thing. Is it because of the strong base? Weak base? Buffer? Each version has a different answer (in the latter cases answer depends not only on concentrations, but also on dissociation constants).

This simplest version is to assume solution contains strong base - and calculate how much acid must be added to lower the pH.
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Re: Volume of Acid to Change pH of Water
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2011, 05:04:55 PM »
The pH is high due to Ca(OH)2.

Any hints how I can start calculating amount of acid needed, or do I still need more information? I am so frustrated with this problem!

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Re: Volume of Acid to Change pH of Water
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2011, 06:49:55 PM »
Ca(OH)2 is a strong base, you can assume it is 100% dissociated.

Calculate how much Ca(OH)2 is present initially, and how much is present at pH 8.0. Calculate change in amount - rest is a simple stoichiometry.
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Re: Volume of Acid to Change pH of Water
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2011, 12:30:58 PM »
I don't fully understand how calculating change in amount (of OH-?) will help me find amount of acid needed?

Every mole of Ca(OH)2 will give 2 moles of OH- so should I calculate when the number of moles of H+ equals the number of moles of OH- at pH 8 using Ca(OH)2 + 2HCl  :rarrow: CaCl2 + 2H2O..

Thanks for your patience with me!

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Re: Volume of Acid to Change pH of Water
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2011, 05:39:22 PM »
I don't fully understand how calculating change in amount (of OH-?) will help me find amount of acid needed?

Stoichiometry - if OH- disappears, that's because it reacted with H+.
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