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Offline samnathan

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Re: Is MMS from Jim Humble safe? What can cause NaClO2 to the cells?
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2011, 09:12:11 AM »
Any other opinion?

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Re: Is MMS from Jim Humble safe? What can cause NaClO2 to the cells?
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2011, 05:35:56 PM »
Do you think I could ask some medical departure for theire opinion? I am unable to find study which disprove Humble theory. PLease, if you know some pages where I can find more info or ask some people let me know. Perhaps some medical forum etc. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Is MMS from Jim Humble safe? What can cause NaClO2 to the cells?
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2011, 06:05:03 PM »
I am unable to find study which disprove Humble theory. P

And I am unable to find a study saying that hitting your balls with a hammer does not cure cancer.

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Re: Is MMS from Jim Humble safe? What can cause NaClO2 to the cells?
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2011, 01:40:42 AM »
Is this really true? Please, if you are making a joke do not post this kind of posts, thank you.

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Re: Is MMS from Jim Humble safe? What can cause NaClO2 to the cells?
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2011, 01:42:20 AM »
What exactly from chemical point of view is wrong with NaClO2?

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Re: Is MMS from Jim Humble safe? What can cause NaClO2 to the cells?
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2011, 03:33:58 AM »
NaClO2 is a strong oxidizer, Cl has got the oxidation state +3. Nobody will breathe a such strong oxidizer, even in small amounts.ClO2 is better at bleaching paper, not curing cancer or so.

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Re: Is MMS from Jim Humble safe? What can cause NaClO2 to the cells?
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2011, 03:50:15 AM »
Is this really true? Please, if you are making a joke do not post this kind of posts, thank you.

No, he was showing to you why your question is putting things on the head. I understand your concern about your Dad, but you will not find a research that will debunk every idiotic idea people can come with. Those doing research have much better things to do, than to deal with every crackpot selling snake oil.

And 408 post hit the nail on the head.
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Re: Is MMS from Jim Humble safe? What can cause NaClO2 to the cells?
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2011, 04:59:11 AM »
NaClO2 is a strong oxidizer, Cl has got the oxidation state +3. Nobody will breathe a such strong oxidizer, even in small amounts.ClO2 is better at bleaching paper, not curing cancer or so.

I am not sure if you are right. Even aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid) mask can damage your skin if you use it too much or in high amount, in fact it can "bleach" your skin just like ClO2. On the other side if used properly it can help your skin. This is used in cosmetics and medicine a lot, that is a reality not only my thought.

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Re: Is MMS from Jim Humble safe? What can cause NaClO2 to the cells?
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2011, 07:03:32 AM »
408: Your sarcasm won't help me. I am looking for some evidence not Picard and Riker photo.

Admin(Borek): Please, remove the picture from ST above, it has nothing to do with my question at all.

Thanks in advance.


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Re: Is MMS from Jim Humble safe? What can cause NaClO2 to the cells?
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2011, 03:15:03 PM »
If you read the wikipedia article which contains a multitude of references http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement

The toxic effects seen in animals are not good. the major bodies responible for medicine/food supplement licensing un the US, UK and Canada have all issued warnings about using it.

It's an industrial strenghth bleach and not meant as a medicine.

Why people choose to believe charlatans who peddle these miracle cures is beyond me.
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MMS or ClO2
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2013, 09:36:24 PM »
I need an unbiased Opinion on the Ingestion of Clo2 and it's Health Effects.

Is there any Dosage that is safe and can be used therapeutically as suggested by Jim Humble?

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Re: MMS or ClO2
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2013, 02:05:04 AM »
Whole MMS thing is a hoax.
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Re: Is MMS from Jim Humble safe? What can cause NaClO2 to the cells?
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2013, 10:42:00 AM »
Hello, wurweider:, I hope you don't mind my merging your current question with this much older post on the same topic.  I hope the earlier posts address many of your questions.  There are at least two:  what is the nature of the therapy proposed by Jim Humble called MMS, and why is it that getting "unbiased" opinions is hard for you.  I think this earlier thread is a very through treatment of the topic, and the nature of pseudoscience and how scientists try to help.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2013, 03:37:26 PM by Arkcon »
Hey, I'm not judging.  I just like to shoot straight.  I'm a man of science.

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