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Is Li2Mg(SO4)2 a possible compound?
« on: November 28, 2011, 10:47:33 PM »
I know that Loweite exists as Na12Mg7(SO4)13·15(H2O), so I was wondering if a compound with lithium, magnesium, and sulfate existed as well. If it did, would it be just Li2Mg(SO4)2·X(H2O) or something more complex? I've tried searching the web for lithium magnesium sulfate and returned fruitless. Thanks a lot!
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Re: Is Li2Mg(SO4)2 a possible compound?
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2011, 03:11:32 AM »
I know that Loweite exists as Na12Mg7(SO4)13·15(H2O), so I was wondering if a compound with lithium, magnesium, and sulfate existed as well. If it did, would it be just Li2Mg(SO4)2·X(H2O) or something more complex? I've tried searching the web for lithium magnesium sulfate and returned fruitless. Thanks a lot!

No reason why this should not exist, perhaps the lithium may be a little too small to fit in the holes snugly. Perhaps it just hasn't been identified as a co-salt or similar?
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Re: Is Li2Mg(SO4)2 a possible compound?
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Re: Is Li2Mg(SO4)2 a possible compound?
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2011, 01:56:22 AM »
Thanks a lot sjb. I wasn't even thinking about the relative sizes of the two metals. (And I didn't know a compound like this was called a co-salt either!)

And AWK, thanks for the link! It helps to know there's proof that lithium and magnesium can form a double sulfate salt together.

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Re: Is Li2Mg(SO4)2 a possible compound?
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2011, 02:05:49 AM »
No reason why this should not exist, perhaps the lithium may be a little too small to fit in the holes snugly. Perhaps it just hasn't been identified as a co-salt or similar?

Actually wait a minute, the ionic radii of Li+ and Mg2+ are 90pm and 86pm respectively. Aren't they close enough?

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Re: Is Li2Mg(SO4)2 a possible compound?
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2011, 02:35:29 AM »
No reason why this should not exist, perhaps the lithium may be a little too small to fit in the holes snugly. Perhaps it just hasn't been identified as a co-salt or similar?

Actually wait a minute, the ionic radii of Li+ and Mg2+ are 90pm and 86pm respectively. Aren't they close enough?

It was just random speculation first thing in the morning, I did not check the figures. Sure, if they are 90 and 86 pm then there's little difference in size. Sorry to have led you up a false path.

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Re: Is Li2Mg(SO4)2 a possible compound?
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2011, 01:06:35 PM »
Se also the phase diagram for system Li2SO4-MgSO4 in
Journal of Thermal Analysis, Vol. 40 (1993) 1151-1156
BINARY SYSTEMS WITH Li2SO4 AS ONE OF THE
COMPONENTS
M. Touboul, E. Le Samedi, N. Sephar, F. Broszniowski, P. Edern
and E. Betourne
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