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Titration of NH4OH
« on: January 19, 2012, 05:50:08 PM »
Hi! I truly don't understand this problem

Suppose that you mix 0.025 L of NaOH 0.1 M  with 0.020 L of NH4Cl 0.01 M.

Then they ask me to draw the titration curve, where I have to suggest a titrant, the concentration of that titrant and indetify what indicators should I use.

Here's my attempt:

I know that if I combine NaOH with NH4Cl the following happens:

NaOH + NH4Cl -----> NaCl + NH4OH

I know as well that NaCl is a neutral salt (neither of its ions undergo hydrolisis) so it has nothing to do with the titration.

I  also know that I get NaOH in excess in the reaction. So what do I have a mixture of two bases? (that would be the analyte)

And I also think that a proper titrant could be HCl (strong acid)

However, I can't figure out how to do it . How would I solve that?

Thanks in advance! This is driving me crazy and I'm just starting with titrations


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Re: Titration of NH4OH
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2012, 06:58:03 PM »
You should brush your acids and bases. Especially Bronsted-Lowry theory.

NH4Cl is not a base. It dissociates into NH4+ and Cl-. Ignore Cl- and concentrate on NH4+.
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Re: Titration of NH4OH
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2012, 07:34:34 PM »
You should brush your acids and bases. Especially Bronsted-Lowry theory.

NH4Cl is not a base. It dissociates into NH4+ and Cl-. Ignore Cl- and concentrate on NH4+.

I'm sorry but I don't quite understand what you¡re trying to explain to me  :-[ . Ok, I do know that NH4Cl is an acid salt, but I still don't don't know how to solve that problem (how to draw the titration curve).

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Re: Titration of NH4OH
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2012, 08:18:41 PM »
Write a different reaction instead, this time between NH4+ and NaOH.
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Re: Titration of NH4OH
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2012, 08:55:44 PM »
Write a different reaction instead, this time between NH4+ and NaOH.

Hmmm ok.. Would it be?:

NH4+ + NaOH ------> Na+ + NH3 + H2O

However, I still don't know how could I do the titration  :-[

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Re: Titration of NH4OH
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2012, 09:52:15 PM »
Write a different reaction instead, this time between NH4+ and NaOH.

Hmmm ok.. Would it be?:

NH4+ + NaOH ------> Na+ + NH3 + H2O

However, I still don't know how could I do the titration  :-[

There's an a-ha moment coming up for you.  What are the states of matter fro your products?
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Re: Titration of NH4OH
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2012, 05:01:13 AM »
NH4+ + NaOH ------> Na+ + NH3 + H2O

However, I still don't know how could I do the titration  :-[

How is your equation different from

CH3COOH + NaOH -> Na+ + CH3COO- + H2O

which is a standard equation for an acetic acid titration?

(Note: it should be Na++OH- on the left, I wrote it the way you did to make it easier to spot how these equations are identical).
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