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% of Ca in dolomite
« on: March 17, 2012, 09:06:13 AM »
A sample of mineral dolomite (m=0.7g) is completely dissolved in HCl, the solution is neutralized and diluted in a normal court of 100cm3 to the line. 25cm3 of that solution is measured and (NH4)2C2O4 is added in excess. The precipitate was then flushed, strained and dissolved in dilute H2SO4. The obtained solution is titrated with KMnO4 solution (c=0.02mol/dm3). 18cm3 of KMnO4 solution was spent. Calculate the % of Ca in the dolomite sample.

Dolomite is MgCO3*CaCO3.
After dissoluting in HCl I got: MgCl2 and CaCl2.
Here I stopped. What makes the precipitate with C2O42-? Mg,Ca or both?

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Re: % of Ca in dolomite
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2012, 09:24:15 AM »
Both.
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Re: % of Ca in dolomite
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2012, 10:00:12 AM »
Then I have both MgC2O4 and CaC2O4. After dissolving in H2SO4 I get MgSO4 and CaSO4. I don't know now how MgSO4 or CaSO4 react with KMnO4.
Is it this way:
3CaSO4+2KMnO4+10H+-->3Ca(OH)2+K2SO4+2MnSO4+2H2O and the same for Mg.

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Re: % of Ca in dolomite
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2012, 10:17:49 AM »
It is not sulfate that reacts with permanganate, SO42- is just a spectator.

Note that your reaction equation:

3CaSO4+2KMnO4+10H+-->3Ca(OH)2+K2SO4+2MnSO4+2H2O

is not balanced - balanced means not only the same amount of atoms, but also the same charge on both sides. Charge is conserved just like mass is conserved.
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Re: % of Ca in dolomite
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2012, 10:29:34 AM »
Oh, right. Then MgC2O4 and CaC2O4 are reacting with KMnO4 in the presence of H+ ions. I will try now to write the correct equation.

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Re: % of Ca in dolomite
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2012, 11:19:31 AM »
I wrote this equation:
5CaC2O4+5MgC2O4+4MnO4-+32H+-->5Ca2++5Mg2++4Mn2+20CO2+16H2O and after some calculations I got the right result (20.57%). Thanks for the help.

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Re: % of Ca in dolomite
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2012, 12:30:01 PM »
I wrote this equation:
5CaC2O4+5MgC2O4+4MnO4-+32H+-->5Ca2++5Mg2++4Mn2+20CO2+16H2O and after some calculations I got the right result (20.57%). Thanks for the help.

That's surprising, as the equation is wrong. You have two separate reactions occurring, not a one. You can't write them as a single equation, as it means assuming already that they are present in 1:1 molar ratio.

As a result of your approach reaction equation is not unique. Why not

5CaC2O4+10MgC2O4+6MnO4-+48H+-->5Ca2++10Mg2++6Mn2++30CO2+24H2O ?

It is possible to write as many different reaction equations as you wish.

Would they yield different answers?
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Re: % of Ca in dolomite
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2012, 12:56:46 PM »
I have balanced the Ca and Mg equation separately and I thought to write them as a single equation because in dolomite the molar ratio of Mg and Ca must be 1:1 I think.

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Re: % of Ca in dolomite
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2012, 01:21:03 PM »
If name dolomite is use one can expect exact molar ratio CaCO3 to MgCO3 as 1:1.
Usually balancing separate reactions followed by addition them needs less effort.
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Re: % of Ca in dolomite
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2012, 06:55:46 PM »
Now that I think about it, 1:1 assumption is necessary to solve the question. Trick is, real dolomite has a rather variable composition (±several percent), so the assumption doesn't have to be true.
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Re: % of Ca in dolomite
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2012, 10:56:07 AM »
Came back to this problem and couldn't solve it again. This would be the reaction:
5CaC2O4+5MgC2O4+4MnO4-+32H+-->5Ca2++5Mg2++4Mn2++20CO2+16H2O
n of KMnO4 is 3.6*10-4, n of the oxalates would be 9*10-4
If the molar ration of Mg and Ca is 1:1, then n(Ca)=9*10-4/2=4.5*10-4.
n of Ca in the 100cm3 is 4.5*10-4/0.025*0.1=1.8*10-3
The mass is m=1.8*10-3*40=0.072g
And the mass share 10.286%. Two times lower than the correct one. Can't find a mistake.

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Re: % of Ca in dolomite
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2012, 02:51:19 PM »
As far as I can tell 10.3% is a correct answer. If 18 mL of 0.02M permanganate was needed to titrate the sample containing equimolar amounts of Mg/Ca oxalates, 9 mL of the solution was spent for CaC2O4 - that means 0.18 mmole, and whole sample would need four times as much titrant - so 0.72 mmole or 7.2x10-4 mole. That means there was 0.07214 g of calcium in the sample.

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Re: % of Ca in dolomite
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2012, 03:22:25 PM »
I got the book answer once, but accidentally. Now, the other one (10.3%) seems correct to me. Thanks for the confirmation.

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Re: % of Ca in dolomite
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2012, 05:05:05 PM »
Make a habit of solving problems in a notebook and not throwing solutions away, you will be able to check them later. Also, that's a good way of learning how to properly keep a lab notebook.
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