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Mead
« on: April 02, 2012, 07:47:10 PM »
Mead
For my next project, I am going to brew mead. Then I am going to analyze the results.
Mead is a beverage made with honey. I have been reading about the brewing process and think I have a handle on it. As I go along I will post here with insights and results.
I am lucky in that there is a local brewing supply house nearby and was able to procure a mead brewing kit. In addition to the reading I have done, the supply house has staff that I can ask questions of should the need arise.
So this is the kick off post for my project and I plan to learn and share the chemistry of brewing here.
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Re: Mead
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2012, 04:59:45 AM »
Polish regional and traditional products registered by the European Commission

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Staropolski miód pitny półtorak—Old-Polish mead variety
Staropolski miód pitny dwójniak—Old-Polish mead variety
Staropolski miód pitny trójniak—Old-Polish mead variety
Staropolski miód pitny czwórniak—Old-Polish mead variety

http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%B3%C5%82torak_(mi%C3%B3d_pitny)
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Re: Mead
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2012, 07:27:32 AM »
You probably already know this, but for the junior chemists everywhere, the best analytical instrument to have for alcohol fermentation is a hydrometer.  And being sure you use it before, during and after fermentation.  You can see how environmental effects are changing the rate of fermentation, and make good predictions based on your past and current notes, about the status of your ferment.  I'm a little lazy in that regard, but wines are more forgiving, because fruits provide a better nutrient environment, so its less critical.
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Re: Mead
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2012, 07:59:42 AM »
Hand held refractometer comes to mind as well.
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Re: Mead
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2012, 08:08:44 AM »
Hand held refractometer comes to mind as well.

Well, those are better.  But a little bit pricy for home use.  But if you have one, they're a quick way to check.
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Re: Mead
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2012, 09:17:40 AM »
You can buy used ones on eBay for $20, and decent new ones for $50. Slightly more expensive than hydrometers but still acceptable by my book.
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Re: Mead
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2012, 04:17:12 AM »
I got a hydrometer for ~8 USD, but the refractometer seems like a nice item to add to my goodies.
The below link has them but seem pricey.
http://www.ibrew.com.au/html/spirits/alcohol%20test%20equipment%20.html

Also would a pH tester be a good thing to have as well?
I did get the testing liquid.


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Re: Mead
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2012, 07:07:55 AM »
Titration to accurately determine the acid level is very useful for the production of wines, the initial acid level in fruit is very variable.  I know that honey provides some acid, but probably not so much that it makes a difference.  A fermented beverage like wine or mead needs some acid, to help yeast grow properly, to inhibit the initial growth of bacteria, and because the final acidity adds complexity.  Without added acid, wine and mead taste insipid -- water + trace of sugar + alcohol <> water + trace of sugar + alcohol + acid.  One is kool-aid + vodka, the other is wine or mead.
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Re: Mead
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2012, 09:49:32 PM »
I know Titration is good but I would rather have a meter of some sort.
Suggestions?


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Re: Mead
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2012, 07:10:33 AM »
Any thoughts on these 3 pH meters

Oakton 35423-10 Ph Tester EcoTestr Ph 2 $49
 
Hanna Instruments Hi 98103 Checker Ph Tester with Replaceable Electrode $23

Milwaukee PH600AQ Ph Tester with 1 Point Manual Calibration $17


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Re: Mead
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2012, 02:35:15 PM »
The recipes I read for making wines tend to rely on titration, either with an indicator, or a pH meter, to determine "equivalents of NaOH" needed to neutralize the fruit juice.  From that number, the recipe tells you how much "acid mix" to add to properly balance the wine.  I don't see many recipes that use pH of the juice to determine the acid to add.  Like I said before, acid balance is pretty important to getting the proper final flavor.
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Re: Mead
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2012, 02:56:54 PM »
During fermentation of honey always there is problem of lacking acidity unless someone obtains acetic acid.
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Re: Mead
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2012, 03:21:38 PM »
The kit contains LD Carlson Company 6120A ACID BLEND Blend of tartaric, malic and citric acids 2 oz.
The recipe calls for 1 tsp for a gallon of mead.

I would be using the pH meter to check at various times to learn about the process.
I am leaning towards getting
Hanna Instruments Hi 98103 Checker Ph Tester with Replaceable Electrode $23

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Re: Mead
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2012, 06:59:55 PM »
That's a common source for acid addition to juice for wine.  Chemically, we understand that those acids have different pKa's, and will lose a proton under different circumstances.  But that's not the whole story:  according to oenophiles, each acid has a different affect on taste. 

Citric adds "brightness", its more commonly found in citrus fruits, and adds tartness that we expect from lemons, for example.  Malic acid is supposed to give a "rounder" more mellow type of acidity, the type we associate with apples.  Tartaric acid is pretty much only found in grapes.  Adding tartaric acid adds "vinosity" -- it reminds us of other wines so what we're drinking tastes "correct."  Its supposedly a milder acid, and, since sodium potassium tartrate is less soluble in wine, drops out as the fermentation proceeds.  This allows the must to be more acidic at the start, when the yeast really needs it, then traces of sodium and potassium ions can remove some.

Again, I don't know of any recipes that call for a certain pH, or call for titrating the pH down with acid mix.  I had heard some basic recipes for people who can't determine the acid level that the must should taste like lemonade.  Properly made, nicely sweet, properly tart, lemonade.  Of course, trying to figure the recipe out that way, instead of actually testing the acid level of the juice can't be easy.  But, once you have your diluted honey and acid mix, taste it.  See if you don't agree that its the perfect mix of sweet and sour.
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Re: Mead
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2012, 12:14:15 PM »
I decided to start with a standard kit with the intent of leaning the basics first.

The Kit I acquired was the Vintner's Best 1 Gallon Wine Making Equipment Kit.

 * 2 Gallon Bucket with Lid
 * Winemakers Recipe Handbook
 * 1 Gallon jug & 38mm Screw Cap
 * 5' of tubing & shut-off clamp
 * 3 piece Airlock (econolock?)
 * Coarse Straining Bag
 * Easy Clean Cleanser
 * Sodium Campden Tablets
 * Active Freeze Dried Wine Yeast
 * Mini Auto Siphon

We exchanged the yeast for another type
 * Red Star Pasteur Red (active dry wine yeast)

We added the following items
 * Yeast Energizer (Crosby & Baker Ltd.)
 * Yeast Nutrient (LD Carlson Co.)
 * Acid Blend (citric, malic, tartaric)(LD Carlson Co.)
 * Dutch Gold Pure Honey from Blueberry Blossoms
 * Strip Thermometer (permometer)
 * #6800 Triple Scale Beer and Wine Hydrometer

I also got a Wine acid test kit (Crosby & Baker Ltd.) containing
 * standard Sodium Hydroxide Solution
 * acid indicator solution
 * calibrated syringe
 * test tube
 * full instructions

I am thinking of buying the following
 * digital pH meter
 * refractometer
in which case the Wine acid test kit and Hydrometer are redundant.



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