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Problem for Aug 2012
« on: August 01, 2012, 08:11:52 PM »
Rationalise the following transformation:
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Re: Problem for Aug 2012
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2012, 07:10:44 AM »
No takers?

Hint: Amadori
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Re: Problem for Aug 2012 [Still unsolved, hint added]
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2012, 07:34:04 AM »
Hint: Carbanionic migration
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Re: Problem for Aug 2012 [Still unsolved, hint added] [second hint added]
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2012, 05:18:04 PM »
Hi,

with your hints (and a few beers), I put together a suggestion towards the solution.

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edit: resize of png
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Re: Problem for Aug 2012 [Still unsolved, hint added] [second hint added]
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2012, 06:53:05 AM »
Yes, well done!

The benzilic acid rearrangement proceeds with very high diastereoselectivity. Can you rationalise the stereochemistry?
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Re: Problem for Aug 2012 [Still unsolved, hint added] [second hint added]
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2012, 07:30:40 AM »
Long time no see Dan. How are you doing? :)
My explanation for the diastereoselectivity is that the methyl group migration of C to give D is stereoelectronically forbidden, for a carbonyl group that bears highly distorted bond angles would be formed. So rearragement of A to B is favored.

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Re: Problem for Aug 2012 [Still unsolved, hint added] [second hint added]
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2012, 05:01:12 AM »
Hi Rory, I'm fine thanks.

I am not convinced by your distorted bond argument. As drawn, both of those migration products have distorted sp2 bond angles - this is just an artistic issue, not a real life problem. It is more accurate to draw the carbonyl in a position inbetween the axial and equatorial positions.

I think it is more helpful to consider a 5-membered calcium chelate. Hint: What models are commonly used to rationalise and predict the diastereoselectivity of addition to α-stereogenic aldehydes/ketones?
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Re: Problem for Aug 2012 [Still unsolved, hint added] [second hint added]
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2012, 06:19:54 AM »
I'm sorry for the inconvincable argument. Does Cram rule account for the stereoselectivity?

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Re: Problem for Aug 2012 [Still unsolved, hint added] [second hint added]
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2012, 12:16:00 PM »
Yes - the stereoselectivity of the benzilic acid rearrangement can be rationalised by the chelated Felkin-Ahn model. Well done.
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